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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Landulf » 5 years 5 months ago (Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:05 am)

Its a deprogramming process, people don't change view even if they know it is the truth they hear. Its like religious people that have been brainwashed with Jesus since preschool. But when you see doubt after a while, then continue and they will eventually be cured.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby HaaDeeCee » 5 years 5 months ago (Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:49 pm)

A.N. Field wrote:Thank you all for the input. I agree with all that was said :D

My favorite list is the one Edgar Steele did on How not to be Interviewed by CNN about the Holocaust.

I'm pondering the wording of a question on the absurdity of the Germans wasting fuel transporting and killing Jews while fighting a two-front war.

Maybe Anthony Lawson's "Were the Germans really so stupid..." is a good opener.

I've also think if we could write a couple of humorous lines/questions it might help. Something along the lines of "~ is asking obvious questions about ~! Burn the heretic!"

Felt I was able to make a few people aware of the media lies regarding the current wars using ridicule with the "another Hitler" line. "Assad is another Hitler. He's gassing his own people. He's taking over the world." Repeat substituting Quaddafi, Ahmadinejad, Saddam Hussein, Putin, etc.


Such a humorous attempt at debunking the holocaust is a book entitled "Hitler visits Oprah". I read it and to this neophyte it appears to be a very good effort in the debunking department.

This book could be presented as a gift with the plausible explanation that it was meant as a joke.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby A.N. Field » 5 years 5 months ago (Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:34 pm)

That's a fine piece, HDC. Thanks.

Here are a couple of approaches from DigggerforTruth http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/10-little-truthing-tricks/

Neutral card - When handing out a flier, or writing down websites to a potential Truth-seeker, try to pretend you are neutral with the information. Just make out you were given the leaflet by a friend, or happen to pick it up at a seminar and you either haven’t had time to look at the information yourself yet, or that you just don’t know what to think of it.

This technique tends to work every time, for three reasons:
(i) It keeps the ego out of the conversation; therefore prevents any on-the-spot antagonism. You may have a politically correct/misinformed person give you a hard time. Try to leave the emotions out of it.
(ii) It stops awkward people who just love to argue for the sake of arguing from challenging you, because they will pick up that you have feelings either way about the information and want to challenge you.
(iii) It keeps you safe in case they are a Chosenite, or just a stuffy mind-controlled idiot who will snitch on you if you are in a vulnerable position, with regards to your work or college, etc.

Mr or Mrs Awkward - If you sense, or know that the person is going to be damn awkward with you by deliberately choosing not to look at your information. Usually because they know it will wind you up. Play an ego/mind game on them by taunting them by saying “I know you won’t bother looking at this information – I know you.” This will irritate them and they will try and do the opposite of what you think or suggest. And if they say they will; just keep denying they will. “Nonsense – you’re a lazy git. You don’t have an once of curiosity in you about things which are going on in the world. No way will you look it this. I can bet you you won’t look at it.” That’ll get ‘em irritated enough and prick their ego to thoroughly look at the info, just to be awkward.

See also 10 Little Truthing Tricks http://diggerfortruth.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/10-little-truthing-tricks/
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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Zulu » 5 years 5 months ago (Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:45 am)

yellow submarine wrote:
Zulu wrote:All these points are well addressed in that video which deserves to be subtitled.

A Nuremberg, l'existence des chambres à gaz n'a pas été démontrée
http://archive.org/details/ANurembergLe ... ontree2012



We subtitled that film just the other day
If you have time to do a translation of other videos you find important, I'll be happy to set the subtitles. just send me a link to the video along with your translation

Fantastic! On the same line of the eyewitnesses' credibility , there are these 2 previous videos form VR:

1, Les "témoignages" en procès (The "testimonies" on trial)



2, Auschwitz : les faux témoins (Auschwitz, the false eyewitnesses)


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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Zulu » 5 years 5 months ago (Wed Mar 26, 2014 9:21 am)

Hannover wrote:
Hektor wrote:Selling?

Who would be your target market?
Everyone who believes in the impossible fantasy.
- Hannover

Paraphrasing De Gaulle who, while earing the slogan "Mort aux cons", (Death to cunts or assholes) , said "Vaste programme!" (extensive program) I would likely think that such task is not easy.
We have to take into account that most of people have been hardly brainwashed since their childhood. As so, the holo-impregnation is deeply rooted in their mind and then, while faced with contradictory views, they generally experiment what is called "Cognitive dissonance". In that case all psy techniques to overpass such situation must be employed:
Cognitive dissonance

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the excessive mental stress and discomfort[1] experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time. This stress and discomfort may also arise within an individual who holds a belief and performs a contradictory action or reaction.[2] For example, an individual is likely to experience dissonance if he or she is addicted to smoking cigarettes and continues to smoke despite believing it is unhealthy.[3]

Leon Festinger's theory of cognitive dissonance focuses on how humans strive for internal consistency. When inconsistency (dissonance) is experienced, individuals largely become psychologically distressed. His basic hypotheses are listed below:

1. "The existence of dissonance, being psychologically uncomfortable, will motivate the person to try to reduce the dissonance and achieve consonance"
2. "When dissonance is present, in addition to trying to reduce it, the person will actively avoid situations and information which would likely increase the dissonance" [1]

[...]

Dissonance is aroused when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in restoring consonance through misperception, rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others[4]
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1. Festinger, L. (1957). A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance. California: Stanford University Press.
2. Festinger, L. (1962). Cognitive dissonance. Scientific American, 207(4), 93-107
3. Saul McLeod. "Cognitive Dissonance". Retrieved 3 Dec 2013.
4. Harmon-Jones, Eddie, A Cognitive Dissonance Theory Perspective on Persuasion, in The Persuasion Handbook: Developments in Theory and Practice, James Price Dillard, Michael Pfau, eds. 2002. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage Publications, p.101.

See also The Hole in the Door By Hans Pedersen http://codoh.com/library/document/1435

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby A.N. Field » 5 years 5 months ago (Thu Mar 27, 2014 10:07 pm)

A couple of good lines from Les Visible:

"Join the good fight against Talmudic Anti-Gentilism, Russian Holocaust Denial and all those others that were done by the same people. Experience true Political Correctness."
Our national peril is that we are ignoring all the vital facts of the situation. Our enemies are none the less real because their ways are hidden ways. But they are a thousand times more insidious.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby cold beer » 5 years 5 months ago (Fri Mar 28, 2014 7:54 am)

Once you demoralize a population you can get them to believe just about anything.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby A.N. Field » 5 years 5 months ago (Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:41 pm)

I'm composing a short handout and would appreciate input regarding what people consider the 4-5 most compelling, easiest to grasp, brain fat penetrating facts to use.

I'm leaning towards Paul Rassinier's stand against
Red Cross report
Wiesel's failure to mention gas chambers
Anne Frank's ball point pen

Thanks in advance.
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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Dresden » 5 years 5 months ago (Sat Mar 29, 2014 10:44 pm)

A.N. Field said:

"I'm composing a short handout and would appreciate input regarding what people consider the 4-5 most compelling, easiest to grasp, brain fat penetrating facts to use"

This thread should help you:

Your top reasons

Re: Your top reasons

Post by Steve F » Thu Oct 04, 2012 8:27 pm

It seems like different people are convinced by different things, but here are my "Top Three":

1. "Thought Crime" Laws.

The fact that it is illegal to doubt the "Holocaust" in many countries of Europe, and Canada, is conclusive proof that it is a Hoax!
I agree with French Jewish Professor, Dr. Roger Dommergue Polacco de Menasce in his letter to Steven Spielberg:

"These laws are, accordingly, the absolute proof of the fake before we study its arithmetical and technical ineptitude"

The Professor didn't say they were proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but that they were "ABSOLUTE" proof, and I agree.

2. Producer Gas.
The fact that there were about a half million Producer Gas Vehicles all over Germany and other parts of Europe, and the utter simplicity of the design of a Producer Gas Generator renders the use of Diesel exhaust, or Zyclon B as idiotic as trying to start a fire by rubbing two sticks together.....IN A MATCH FACTORY!!!

3. The Color of "Gassed" Corpses.

The fact that not a single "eyewitness" got the color of the "gassed" corses right, is conclusive proof that they never saw the corpse of a person who died from Carbon Monoxide, or Hydrogen Cyanide.
The distinctive "Cherry Red" color of gassing victims would have been noticed and never forgotten by everyone who saw them.
A pile of gassed corpses would have looked like a pile of Lobsters, and most, if not ALL, of the eyewitnesses would have mentioned the eery sight!

There are many(and I really mean many) more reasons that I know the "Holocaust" is a Hoax, but these three are the most powerful, in my opinion.
Maybe, just maybe, they believe what they are telling you about the 'holocaust', but maybe, just maybe, their contempt for your intelligence and your character is beyond anything you could ever have imagined. -- Bradley Smith

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby borjastick » 5 years 5 months ago (Sun Mar 30, 2014 2:36 am)

Forget the Anne Frank thingy. It's a fun side show but a side show nonetheless.

For me there are two basics that everything, every single claim stands and then falls on.

Firstly the numbers simply don't add up and cannot be proven to support the six million or anywhere near that number. See the thread The Numbers Game. If six million, or anywhere near that number didn't die and were not gassed then there was no holocaust. See my sign off for the feelings I have about the lies told about the numbers involved.

Secondly the gas chambers, or rather the lack of them.
'Of the four million Jews under Nazi control in WW2, six million died and alas only five million survived.'

'We don't need evidence, we have survivors' - israeli politician

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby A.N. Field » 5 years 5 months ago (Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:25 pm)

I should have mentioned that I'm targeting high school age people and hoping to use the handout as an intro the them watching Eric Hunt's films. I love the quote from Sylvia Stolz. thanks again for the thoughts.
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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Hannover » 5 years 5 months ago (Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:39 pm)

Tell them that verifiable mass graves and human remains of those supposedly murdered have not and cannot be shown. Mention that these mass graves and human remains are alleged to exist. As simple as it gets.

For the more technically curious high schoolers, this thread takes care of the absurd 'gas chambers':
Cyanide Chemistry at Auschwitz

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, any of them can peruse CODOH and / or discuss matters at this forum. Give them links.

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If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Kingfisher » 5 years 5 months ago (Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:50 pm)

If you do go with Ann Frank, which doesn't seem such a bad idea if the target audience is schoolkids, I'd forget the ballpoint thing, which, as borjastic remarked, is a sideshow and disputed. Instead stick with the mainstream story, which supports revisionism. She wasn't gassed and nor was anyone in her family. She died of typhus in the catastrophic last days of Belsen after living in Auschwitz for a period (you can check how long) and being evacuated. About half of her family survived and the deaths of the others are mainly accounted for without a gassing among them.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby Hannover » 5 years 5 months ago (Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:31 pm)

Going with Anne Frank? Then this is a must see:

Anne Frank's Handwriting
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p-97_Faurisson.html

also recommended, Google:
'ihr anne frank'

This is too easy.

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Re: Selling Revisionism

Postby A.N. Field » 5 years 4 months ago (Fri May 16, 2014 10:46 pm)

This came to mind as suitable for some audiences:

"The Holocaust" ™(insert additional kosher symbols) is Blood Libel Against the German People"

Quotations marks need sorting.
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