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Israel’s Desperate Army of Liars Doomed to Defeat

Postby Hannover » 4 years 8 months ago (Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:20 pm)

Whether it's promoting the fraud of the so called 'holocaust', engaging in a very real genocide, running the world's largest concentration camps, engaging in blatant racism / apartheid, skimming billions of dollars & euros from US & German taxpayers, you must be aware of the army of hasbara liars that market truly vile Zionism at all costs. Truth does not matter to them.

Apply the subject of this forum and see if you don't recognize the face of real hate, real danger; read about the bottom of the barrel.

Knowledge of these hucksters can only increase an already growing number of people who recognize the 'holocaust' storyline as the naked scam that it is.

- Hannover

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42320.htm
Israel’s Army of Spin-doctors is Doomed to Defeat

By Jonathan Cook

July 07, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - Nazareth - The Israeli government believes it is locked in an epic struggle to save Israel from the growing movement calling for an international boycott. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu warns that Israel must quickly “rebrand” itself to avoid pariah status.

Ordinary Israelis are therefore being conscripted into an army of spin-doctors in a campaign termed “hasbara” – Hebrew for “public diplomacy”, or more literally “propaganda”.

In the latest offensive, the education ministry has launched a compulsory hasbara course for Israeli students travelling abroad. All youth delegations are now required to learn how to justify to outsiders Israel’s policies in the occupied territories. According to officials, the students must challenge those who “seek to delegitimize Israel”.

It is yet more evidence that hasbara has become a national obsession in Israel – and that the line between support for one’s country and support for the subjugation of another people has been erased. Some 85 per cent of Israelis tell pollsters they are keen to become hasbara ambassadors for the Netanyahu government.

A hasbara ministry already targets the international media with good news, while cultural events from food fairs to Israeli entries at film festivals are designed to prove that Israel has another, hidden side.

For years the Israeli government has relied on paid workers – and thousands of volunteers in Israel and abroad – to surf the net posting pro-Israel comments.

At Israel’s international airport, Israeli holidaymakers are offered brochures explaining the importance of persuading those they meet that Israel is misunderstood. Advice suggests emphasising successes such as Israel’s invention of drip irrigation and popular varieties of the cherry tomato.

And yet the latest hasbara drive is as unlikely to reverse Israel’s slow slide into ignominy as its predecessors.

The hasbara industry’s chief flaw, as Israeli political scientist Neve Gordon observes, is its assumption that “the merchandise is fine, and only the packaging needs to be replaced”.

But rapid developments in information technology mean Israel has less control over its image than ever before.

First it was 24-hour rolling news, then the internet. Now cheap smartphones make every Palestinian a potential documentary-maker, ensuring that moments of cruelty and oppression are captured and available for anyone who cares to look.

Palestinians post online videos of their everyday abuse: from demolition of homes to stone-throwers being shot with live ammunition; from settlers burning crops to children being dragged by soldiers from their beds in the middle of the night.

Last week 56-year-old Zaki Sabah, a familiar cake vendor in Jerusalem’s Old City, starred in one such video. Bystanders filmed him being savagely beaten by Israeli police on a busy road. Denied a permit for many years by the occupation authorities, Sabah has been repeatedly fined and jailed.

Meanwhile, another video exposed Israel’s deceitful account of its supposedly peaceful interception of a boat trying to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza. As more than a dozen passengers were held captive over the weekend, footage was smuggled out showing that Israeli commandos had electrocuted some of them with tasers during the takeover.

Troubling imagery is not restricted to the occupied territories. Film of the charred interior of a historic church next to the Sea of Galilee highlighted last month the latest hate crime by Jewish extremists against Israel’s large Palestinian minority.

The futility of trying to staunch the tide of evidence damning Israel on media old and new was exemplified last week by Moshe Yaalon, the defence minister.

“There is no humanitarian distress in Gaza,” he averred, while the media illustrated reports of his speech with pictures of mountains of rubble and children still homeless a year after Israel’s massive assault on the besieged enclave.

Yaalon’s sophistry may placate Israel’s diehard supporters but the rest of us are more often incensed by such insults to our intelligence.

The hasbara offensive is doomed for another reason.

With the Palestinians’ case substantiated by evidence, rather than Israel’s, the evangelists of hasbara have only one recourse: to blame the messenger.

Critics of Israel, it is implied, are either inveterate dupes or unabashed anti-semites. Either they have been deceived by the Israel-haters, or they are haters themselves.

As the hasbara industry moves into overdrive, such slurs are becoming all too common – including against those Israel most urgently needs to cultivate as allies.

Judith Nir Mozes, the wife of interior minister Silvan Shalom, a Netanyahu confidant, possibly reflected high-level thinking in Israel when she tweeted last month a racist “joke” about President Barack Obama. “Do u know what Obama Coffee is? Black and weak,” she wrote, ridiculing the leader of Israel’s most important ally.

Similarly, the Israeli foreign ministry hurried to mock foreign journalists, even though they are hasbara’s target audience.

In a short animated video, a naïve reporter is shown claiming that the people of Gaza simply want peace as militants fire rockets just behind him. Next the reporter misidentifies Hamas’ tunnelling as the “first Palestinian subway system”. The video ends with a warning: “Open your eyes, terror rules Gaza.”

Michael Oren, Israel’s recently departed ambassador to the US, has joined the fray too, castigating American Jewish journalists as “self-haters” for their critical coverage of the Israeli prime minister.

Hasbara’s cartoon version of reality is not only unconvincing but, in alienating friends as much as foes, self-defeating. Netanyahu may hope to repackage Israel, but his product – ongoing oppression of Palestinians – is one few can be persuaded to buy.
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Re: Israel’s Desperate Army of Liars Doomed to Defeat

Postby Hannover » 4 years 8 months ago (Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:49 pm)

Certainly this forum is frequented by such unethical characters, but here they get no quarter and their nonsense is quickly dispatched with fact based science, logic, & rational thought.

Look around and see for yourself. It's not even close.

- Hannover

The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

The tide is turning.
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Re: Israel’s Desperate Army of Liars Doomed to Defeat

Postby Mulegino1 » 4 years 8 months ago (Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:04 pm)

Hannover wrote:Whether it's promoting the fraud of the so called 'holocaust', engaging in a very real genocide, running the world's largest concentration camps, engaging in blatant racism / apartheid, skimming billions of dollars & euros from US & German taxpayers, you must be aware of the army of hasbara liars that market truly vile Zionism at all costs. Truth does not matter to them.

Apply the subject of this forum and see if you don't recognize the face of real hate, real danger; read about the bottom of the barrel.

Knowledge of these hucksters can only increase an already growing number of people who recognize the 'holocaust' storyline as the naked scam that it is.

- Hannover

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article42320.htm
Israel’s Army of Spin-doctors is Doomed to Defeat

By Jonathan Cook

July 07, 2015 "Information Clearing House" - Nazareth - The Israeli government believes it is locked in an epic struggle to save Israel from the growing movement calling for an international boycott. Prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu warns that Israel must quickly “rebrand” itself to avoid pariah status.

Ordinary Israelis are therefore being conscripted into an army of spin-doctors in a campaign termed “hasbara” – Hebrew for “public diplomacy”, or more literally “propaganda”.

In the latest offensive, the education ministry has launched a compulsory hasbara course for Israeli students travelling abroad. All youth delegations are now required to learn how to justify to outsiders Israel’s policies in the occupied territories. According to officials, the students must challenge those who “seek to delegitimize Israel”.

It is yet more evidence that hasbara has become a national obsession in Israel – and that the line between support for one’s country and support for the subjugation of another people has been erased. Some 85 per cent of Israelis tell pollsters they are keen to become hasbara ambassadors for the Netanyahu government.

A hasbara ministry already targets the international media with good news, while cultural events from food fairs to Israeli entries at film festivals are designed to prove that Israel has another, hidden side.

For years the Israeli government has relied on paid workers – and thousands of volunteers in Israel and abroad – to surf the net posting pro-Israel comments.

At Israel’s international airport, Israeli holidaymakers are offered brochures explaining the importance of persuading those they meet that Israel is misunderstood. Advice suggests emphasising successes such as Israel’s invention of drip irrigation and popular varieties of the cherry tomato.

And yet the latest hasbara drive is as unlikely to reverse Israel’s slow slide into ignominy as its predecessors.

The hasbara industry’s chief flaw, as Israeli political scientist Neve Gordon observes, is its assumption that “the merchandise is fine, and only the packaging needs to be replaced”.

But rapid developments in information technology mean Israel has less control over its image than ever before.

First it was 24-hour rolling news, then the internet. Now cheap smartphones make every Palestinian a potential documentary-maker, ensuring that moments of cruelty and oppression are captured and available for anyone who cares to look.

Palestinians post online videos of their everyday abuse: from demolition of homes to stone-throwers being shot with live ammunition; from settlers burning crops to children being dragged by soldiers from their beds in the middle of the night.

Last week 56-year-old Zaki Sabah, a familiar cake vendor in Jerusalem’s Old City, starred in one such video. Bystanders filmed him being savagely beaten by Israeli police on a busy road. Denied a permit for many years by the occupation authorities, Sabah has been repeatedly fined and jailed.

Meanwhile, another video exposed Israel’s deceitful account of its supposedly peaceful interception of a boat trying to break the Israeli blockade of Gaza. As more than a dozen passengers were held captive over the weekend, footage was smuggled out showing that Israeli commandos had electrocuted some of them with tasers during the takeover.

Troubling imagery is not restricted to the occupied territories. Film of the charred interior of a historic church next to the Sea of Galilee highlighted last month the latest hate crime by Jewish extremists against Israel’s large Palestinian minority.

The futility of trying to staunch the tide of evidence damning Israel on media old and new was exemplified last week by Moshe Yaalon, the defence minister.

“There is no humanitarian distress in Gaza,” he averred, while the media illustrated reports of his speech with pictures of mountains of rubble and children still homeless a year after Israel’s massive assault on the besieged enclave.

Yaalon’s sophistry may placate Israel’s diehard supporters but the rest of us are more often incensed by such insults to our intelligence.

The hasbara offensive is doomed for another reason.

With the Palestinians’ case substantiated by evidence, rather than Israel’s, the evangelists of hasbara have only one recourse: to blame the messenger.

Critics of Israel, it is implied, are either inveterate dupes or unabashed anti-semites. Either they have been deceived by the Israel-haters, or they are haters themselves.

As the hasbara industry moves into overdrive, such slurs are becoming all too common – including against those Israel most urgently needs to cultivate as allies.

Judith Nir Mozes, the wife of interior minister Silvan Shalom, a Netanyahu confidant, possibly reflected high-level thinking in Israel when she tweeted last month a racist “joke” about President Barack Obama. “Do u know what Obama Coffee is? Black and weak,” she wrote, ridiculing the leader of Israel’s most important ally.

Similarly, the Israeli foreign ministry hurried to mock foreign journalists, even though they are hasbara’s target audience.

In a short animated video, a naïve reporter is shown claiming that the people of Gaza simply want peace as militants fire rockets just behind him. Next the reporter misidentifies Hamas’ tunnelling as the “first Palestinian subway system”. The video ends with a warning: “Open your eyes, terror rules Gaza.”

Michael Oren, Israel’s recently departed ambassador to the US, has joined the fray too, castigating American Jewish journalists as “self-haters” for their critical coverage of the Israeli prime minister.

Hasbara’s cartoon version of reality is not only unconvincing but, in alienating friends as much as foes, self-defeating. Netanyahu may hope to repackage Israel, but his product – ongoing oppression of Palestinians – is one few can be persuaded to buy.


The Hasbara Lexicon Likud Edition


Terms:

God: In the western metaphysical tradition, the Divinity, the Supreme Being, the Summum Bonum, the the Creator of all things, Who is Omniscient, Omnipotent, Eternal, Infinite and Simple.

G-d: In Hasbara, a dealer in purloined Levantine real estate who dwells in the sky.

Truth: In the classical philosophical sense, the proper relationship of thought and thing, i.e., adecuatio mentis et rei; correct judgement; that which is objectively true.

Truth: For the Hasbarist, a fluid concept which emanates from AIPAC talking points memos.

Homeland: In the classical sense, the land or nation where one resides legally or is a citizen thereof.

Homeland: For the Hasbarist, any land west of the Jordan River, north of the Litani River, or south of the Sinai which is worth stealing.

Terrorist: In the historical sense, anyone who seeks to achieve a political goal through the use of violent attacks against civilian targets.

Terrorist: In Hasbara, anyone who objects to the theft of their land or the demolition of their home, and may throw rocks at tanks as a result.

Self-defense: In the classical legal sense, protecting one's life, family and occasionally, one's home, against imminent threats of violence.

Self-defense: In Hasbara, using tanks, white phosphorus or heavy artillery to shell terrorists (in the Hasbara sense; see above).

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Re: Israel’s Desperate Army of Liars Doomed to Defeat

Postby Lysander_Spooner » 4 years 8 months ago (Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:01 am)

For years I sparred with a hasbara-naut on our local newspaper's forum. This guy had well over a dozen logins. He had a few "female" logins too. It was fun spanking this guy and ridiculing his use of multiple logins. I learned a lot about the jewish character because of my interaction with him.

I am convinced that jews simply have no recognition of "the truth" and "a lie." For them, words are used to hide their intentions. They say whatever they think will get them to their goal. Achieving their goals is all that matters. They do and say anything to get what they want. I heard a neo-con once say that whatever a neo-con says becomes "the truth." That is a sort of kaballistic concept there. We aren't dealing with western people who use language to achieve cooperation and goals. Jews are very different. I've gotten to where I don't even hold this against them. We aren't trying to get jews to admit their wrongs--because they won't--we are trying to get our fellow westerners to understand we've been lied to about this "holocaust" thing.

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Re: Israel’s Desperate Army of Liars Doomed to Defeat

Postby borjastick » 4 years 8 months ago (Fri Jul 10, 2015 11:05 am)

I have always said that debate with holocaust believers is, for the most part, a pointless exercise. They aren't going to change their opinion just because of rational presentation of the evidence and facts. They don't do rational, they do lies and emotional blackmail. You can turn newbies and the ignorant but why waste good air on people who simply will not accept truth when it's so obvious? Someone once said something along the lines of 'truth burns with a white heat'.

One almost doesn't need to know many facts about the holocaust to know it's a pack of lies, all one has to do is watch the lies and actions of Israel to know these people should never be trusted because they can never tell the truth. How can they, as Lysander says above, if the truth is irrelevant don't expect it anytime soon.
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Re: Israel’s Desperate Army of Liars Doomed to Defeat

Postby Turpitz » 4 years 6 months ago (Mon Sep 21, 2015 2:00 am)

Another one just been exposed:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-34292809

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Above: Josh, yesterday.

I like this bit: ''You have to feel sorry for him, he's mentally ill,''

Well, I could have told them that.

I see the Zionist controlled, peadophile ridden BBC are doing their utmost to turn him into a victim as usual.


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