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German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Werd » 3 years 11 months ago (Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:46 pm)

This is getting ridiculous, now.

German woman, 91, charged over role at Auschwitz

NEWS WIRES
1 day ago

Schleswig-Holstein prosecutors' spokesman Heinz Doellel said Monday the woman, whose name wasn't disclosed due to German privacy laws, is alleged to have served as a radio operator for the camp commandant from April to July 1944.

Prosecutors argue that she can be charged as an accessory because she helped the death camp function. A 94-year-old former SS sergeant at Auschwitz was convicted on the same reasoning earlier this year.

Doellel says there are no indications the woman is unfit for trial, though a court likely won't decide on whether to proceed with the case until next year.

(AFP)

Whatever the hell that means.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Hektor » 3 years 11 months ago (Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:16 pm)

Werd wrote:...Whatever the hell that means.

They'll probably come up with something like "transmitting messages ordering Zyklon b for the camp" and then suppose incriminating meaning to this. That's what they did with Mulka. Of course they reckon that people don't know that this was a live saving delousing agent.

A 91 year old woman might be able to pose more resistance than man the same age. Perhaps she takes a stance of having no knowledge of extermination whatsoever.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby EtienneSC » 3 years 11 months ago (Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:42 am)

Here's Susan Pollack of the UK Holocaust Education Trust getting in early on the witch hunt:

Auschwitz and Bergen-Belsen survivor Susan Pollack, 85, described how she was glad to have given evidence at Oskar Groening's trial and said the latest charge was an "important message".

Her answer to "How did you survive?" is a gem.

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Postby Hektor » 3 years 11 months ago (Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:19 am)

EtienneSC wrote:....
Her answer to "How did you survive?" is a gem.

Why are her eyes turning sporadically to the right? Is there a script or something?


Checked her name. Youtube is teeming with videos of her:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... an+Pollack

One calls her one of the most prolific Holocaust speakers.

We still need to find out who the newest victim of the witchhunt is.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby borjastick » 3 years 11 months ago (Wed Sep 23, 2015 6:23 am)

What is quite amazing is that this total,bullshit still endures. She is talking about Belsen, not Auschwitz, nor Treblinka, nor even Majdanek. She is talking about Belsen where there were no gas chambers and no mass murder yet she quite clearly states that people went through 'selection' (a process usually only referred to at Auschwitz btw). The 'selection' process according to her was for gassing.

You are right about how she totally sidesteps the 'how did you survive' question. She deftly avoids an answer with any truth or substance.

This woman is quite simply lying.
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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Hannover » 3 years 11 months ago (Fri Sep 25, 2015 9:49 am)

Of course I really doubt that the Bletchley Park intercepted & decrypted messages sent out of Auschwitz which refute the lies about Auschwitz will be brought into the trial of this radio operator.

Now that would make for one interesting defense, if they didn't arrest the defense attorney or actually defending this innocent woman.

more on the Bletchley Park decrypts here:
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7581
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http://whatreallyhappened.info

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Tomt » 3 years 11 months ago (Fri Sep 25, 2015 2:07 pm)

This woman will be in a bad position no matter what. If she denies any gassing then she is a denier and can be in trouble for that. Or like many former inmates and SS they heard about gassing after the war and might think that it must have happened.

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Postby Inquisitor » 3 years 11 months ago (Fri Sep 25, 2015 4:54 pm)

Tomt wrote:This woman will be in a bad position no matter what. If she denies any gassing then she is a denier and can be in trouble for that. Or like many former inmates and SS they heard about gassing after the war and might think that it must have happened.


And that's how the game is played! That is precisely how the keepers-of-the-myth maintain and enforce their preposterous tale, and all dissent ruthlessly punished, etc.

When someone tells you, "the truth is no defense" and Orwellian nonsense along those lines, you KNOW you are no longer dealing with anything resembling justice or historical Western jurisprudence and so forth.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Hektor » 3 years 11 months ago (Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:37 am)

Inquisitor wrote:
Tomt wrote:This woman will be in a bad position no matter what. If she denies any gassing then she is a denier and can be in trouble for that. Or like many former inmates and SS they heard about gassing after the war and might think that it must have happened.


And that's how the game is played! That is precisely how the keepers-of-the-myth maintain and enforce their preposterous tale, and all dissent ruthlessly punished, etc.

When someone tells you, "the truth is no defense" and Orwellian nonsense along those lines, you KNOW you are no longer dealing with anything resembling justice or historical Western jurisprudence and so forth.

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It should be noted that for what she's now accused of, she couldn't be prosecuted for this for decade. So it's an ex post facto legislation, hence highly dubious.

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Postby Kingfisher » 3 years 11 months ago (Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:43 am)

Hektor wrote:
Inquisitor wrote:
Tomt wrote:This woman will be in a bad position no matter what. If she denies any gassing then she is a denier and can be in trouble for that. Or like many former inmates and SS they heard about gassing after the war and might think that it must have happened.


And that's how the game is played! That is precisely how the keepers-of-the-myth maintain and enforce their preposterous tale, and all dissent ruthlessly punished, etc.

When someone tells you, "the truth is no defense" and Orwellian nonsense along those lines, you KNOW you are no longer dealing with anything resembling justice or historical Western jurisprudence and so forth.

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It should be noted that for what she's now accused of, she couldn't be prosecuted for this for decade. So it's an ex post facto legislation, hence highly dubious.

I'm not sure that's technically accurate. I think it was a change in court interpretation, setting a new precedent, not a change in the law. I agree with you on the moral issue, though.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Hektor » 3 years 11 months ago (Sat Sep 26, 2015 11:43 am)

Kingfisher wrote:
Hektor wrote:
Inquisitor wrote:
And that's how the game is played! That is precisely how the keepers-of-the-myth maintain and enforce their preposterous tale, and all dissent ruthlessly punished, etc.

When someone tells you, "the truth is no defense" and Orwellian nonsense along those lines, you KNOW you are no longer dealing with anything resembling justice or historical Western jurisprudence and so forth.

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It should be noted that for what she's now accused of, she couldn't be prosecuted for this for decade. So it's an ex post facto legislation, hence highly dubious.

I'm not sure that's technically accurate. I think it was a change in court interpretation, setting a new precedent, not a change in the law. I agree with you on the moral issue, though.

You may have a point that it's more nuanced then just passing some new legislation. But, if you accuse someone now, that wouldn't be accused for decades previously, then there has to be a de facto change of legislation. The judicial arm acts on the basis what legislation has been passed by the legislative body (and I recall there was something passed in parliament relating to this). That's a principle of separation of powers. If the courts acted all on their own with "new interpretation", then this makes it even more dubious. It would be quite similar to making the same sex "marriage" decision by POTUS in the US 'law'; also a highly dubious way of doing things.

I highly doubt that this grandma wasn't known to have been deployed in Auschwitz for decades already, given the resources thrown at this issue. Still they never decided on charges beforehand.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby Hannover » 3 years 11 months ago (Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:09 pm)

Hektor:
I highly doubt that this grandma wasn't known to have been deployed in Auschwitz for decades already, given the resources thrown at this issue. Still they never decided on charges beforehand.
Yes, if they really had something they would have prosecuted this woman long ago. But the meme now is that anyone who was at Auschwitz was necessarily a participant in the impossible. Who said Stalinism was dead?

Given the fact that they were able to extracts false and impossible statements from the equally aged Oskar Groening, I'm sure their thinking is that they can do the same with this elderly woman.

There is also the big salaries of those involved in the prosecution here. These shysters have self interest incentive to invent work for themselves in order to perpetuate their high paying positions. Truth is secondary to cash.
It's all about getting coerced statements for the Zionist media to jump on and market for the benefit of supremacist Jews and the remainder of those within "The Holocau$t Industry".
They know Revisionists are making progress with the public and are desperate for anything that assists in creating headlines for their faltering cause.

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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby borjastick » 3 years 11 months ago (Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:56 pm)

I agree with the above thought that she could have been charged and persecuted many years ago but so could have been Groening et al. The question has to be 'why wait?'.

The answer perhaps lies in the cadence and development of the hoax and its absolute requirement to endure.

If you have a gang murder the cops rush in and as they say the first 48 hours are crucial to getting your hands on the bad boys.

Here with the hoax had all the 'bad boys' been rounded up by the end of the Nuremberg IMT then what on earth would they do to maintain the story. The drip feed of prosecutions over the past 70 odd years turns this from a one time hit into a rock band that keeps on delivering sell out stadia tours to 100,000 screaming fans for decades. Just like the Rolling Stones in fact.

This drip feed of announcements, witness claims, media releases and of course persecution of innocent octogenarians is essential for the myth to be maintained and to brainwash generation after generation, literally.
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Re: German woman 91 charged over Auschwitz role

Postby hermod » 3 years 11 months ago (Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:38 pm)

I think we can all agree on the fact that the foreseeable conclusion of such Holo-drama series is "guilty...but exempted from any penalty because of a poor health". The Lobby feverishly securing some additional pieces of its so dear unimpeachable (ahem) testimonial 'evidence' for posterity, quite pathetic sight...
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