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Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews / Netanyahu that's who

Postby EtienneSC » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:57 am)

Guess which son of a famous historian thinks Hitler wanted to expel the Jews from Germany but didn't want to exterminate them (until the Mufti of Jerusalem suggested it).
Speech in English to the 37th World Zionist congress, put online in October 2015:


(Mr Netanyahu).

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Lysander_Spooner » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:29 am)

Is this the first time a jewish politician has ever said this? I cannot recall anything similar being said by one until now. It seems to me we have witnessed a significant win for revisionism. Bibi has moved the blame for the nasty stuff onto the Palestinians. LOL. These people......

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby EtienneSC » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:34 am)

Lysander_Spooner wrote:Bibi has moved the blame for the nasty stuff onto the Palestinians. LOL.

According to Gerald Fleming's Hitler and the Final Solution (London: Hamilton, 1985, 101), the meeting between Hitler and the Mufti was on 28 November 1941.
This would make a nonsense of the claim that Goering ordered Heydrich to organize the Final Solution in a letter of 31 July 1941. Of course, there being no evidence of the Hitler order and the coded language theory means that there is no clarity on any subordinate orders - and Netanyahu has no authority as a historian anyway. The Wannsee conference was 20 January 1942.

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby EtienneSC » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:44 am)

Developments on the same subject:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-34594563
Netanyahu Holocaust remarks: Israeli PM criticised
Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been criticised for saying a Palestinian leader persuaded the Nazis to carry out the Holocaust.

Mr Netanyahu insisted Adolf Hitler had only wanted to expel Jews from Europe, but that Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini told him: "Burn them."

However, the chief historian at Israel's memorial to the Holocaust said this account was factually incorrect.

Israel's opposition leader called it "a dangerous historical distortion".

A senior Palestinian official meanwhile said it showed Mr Netanyahu hated Palestinians so much he was willing to absolve Hitler.

Tensions have been worsened since early October by a spate of stabbing and shooting attacks - several of them fatal - on Israelis by Palestinians, and one apparent revenge stabbing by an Israeli.

Israeli security forces have also clashed with rioting Palestinians, leading to deaths on the Palestinian side. The violence has also spread to the border with Gaza.

Husseini, who died in 1974, was a Palestinian nationalist leader who led violent campaigns against Jews and the British authorities in what was then British Mandate Palestine in the 1920s and 1930s.

He fled the territory in 1937, but continued his campaign to oppose British plans to partition it into a Jewish state and an Arab one, allying himself with the Nazis during World War Two.

Husseini met Hitler in Berlin in November 1941, when he tried to persuade the Nazi leader to declare his support for the creation of an Arab state, according to German press reports at the time.

But in a speech at the World Zionist Congress in Jerusalem on Tuesday, Mr Netanyahu gave a different account.

Israel's opposition leader demanded that Benjamin Netanyahu "correct" his remarks immediately

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time - he wanted to expel the Jews," the Israeli prime minister said.

"And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said: 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.'

"'So what should I do with them?' he [Hitler] asked. He [Husseini] said: 'Burn them.'"

However, the chief historian of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem, Professor Dina Porat, said Mr Netanyahu's statement was factually incorrect.

"You cannot say that it was the mufti who gave Hitler the idea to kill or burn Jews," she told the newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth. "It's not true. Their meeting occurred after a series of events that point to this."

Opposition leader Isaac Herzog said the prime minister's remarks played into the hands of Holocaust deniers.

"This is a dangerous historical distortion and I demand Netanyahu correct it immediately as it minimises the Holocaust, Nazism and... Hitler's part in our people's terrible disaster," he wrote on his Facebook page.

The Palestine Liberation Organisation's Secretary General, Saeb Erekat, said in a statement: "It is a sad day in history when the leader of the Israeli government hates his neighbour so much that he is willing to absolve the most notorious war criminal in history, Adolf Hitler, of the murder of six million Jews."

Mr Netanyahu later responded to the criticism, saying: "I had absolutely no intention of absolving Hitler of his diabolical responsibility for the extermination of Europe's Jews."

But, he added, it was "absurd to ignore the role played by the mufti", citing the testimony of the deputy of Adolf Eichmann - considered the architect of the Holocaust - at the Nuremberg trials.

"He said: 'The mufti played a role in the decision of the German government to exterminate the European Jews, the importance of which must not be disregarded.

"He has repeatedly suggested to the various authorities with whom he has been in contact - above all before Hitler, Ribbentrop and Himmler - the extermination of European Jewry. He considered this as a comfortable solution for the Palestine problem.'"

Husseini was sought for war crimes but never appeared at Nuremberg.

"Plays into the hands of holocaust deniers" - perish the thought!

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby phdnm » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:47 am)

The German government responded quickly!

NO revisionism about the "holocaust"!

And I see no reason to change our view of history in any way


Germans are eternally guilty!

Germany Responds to Netanyahu: We're Responsible for Holocaust, Not Mufti


10/21/2015

'All Germans know the history of the murderous race mania of the Nazis that led to the break with civilization that was the Holocaust,' German spokesperson says.

The German government said on Wednesday that responsibility for the Holocaust lay with the Germans, after Israel's prime minister sparked controversy before a visit to Berlin by saying a Muslim elder had convinced Adolf Hitler to exterminate Jews.

"All Germans know the history of the murderous race mania of the Nazis that led to the break with civilization that was the Holocaust," Chancellor Angela Merkel's spokesman Steffen Seibert said when asked about Benjamin Netanyahu's remarks.

"This is taught in German schools for good reason, it must never be forgotten. And I see no reason to change our view of history in any way. We know that responsibility for this crime against humanity is German and very much our own."

Hours before leaving for Berlin, Netanyahu referred in a speech to a series of attacks by Muslims against Jews in Palestine during the 1920s that he said were instigated by the then Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini.

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews," Netanyahu said in the speech. "And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said, 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.'


http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.681679

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Hannover » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:55 am)

The communist from Stasi - Soviet East Germany, Merkel, via her spokesman said:
"This is taught in German schools for good reason, it must never be forgotten. And I see no reason to change our view of history in any way. We know that responsibility for this crime against humanity is German and very much our own."
I's taught in schools just like the fact of witchcraft & sorcery was once taught in schools. The entire neo-Marxist European agenda depends on the lies of '6M Jews, 5M others & gas chambers', so of course those like Merkel are going to defend their gravy train. Problem is that they have no proof, hence the necessity of banning free speech & inquiry concerning the 'holocau$t' storyline

And then if anyone investigates the claims about the Mufti & Eichmann they will quickly see the entire matter is unfounded, simply more racist Zionist propaganda. Propaganda that is now coming home to roost.

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Dresden » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:38 am)

"However, the chief historian at Israel's memorial to the Holocaust said this account was factually incorrect"

Or, in common language, a load of bullcrap!

"Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews at the time - he wanted to expel the Jews," the Israeli prime minister said.

So, this nonsense about "code language" for "extermination" is blown clean out of the water!

"And Haj Amin al-Husseini went to Hitler and said: 'If you expel them, they'll all come here.'

"'So what should I do with them?' he [Hitler] asked. He [Husseini] said: 'Burn them.'"


So, before the meeting with the Mufti, it never even entered Hitler's mind to do anything else but deport the Jews.
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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby EtienneSC » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:06 pm)

phdnm wrote:NO revisionism about the "holocaust"!

Could there be more to this than meets the eye? The World Zionist congress would be a place to float new ideas. Could it be that some senior Likudniks have decided to float downplaying the holocaust narrative? Look at it from their point of view:

- It may not be psychologically healthy for their own children to approach life full of the fear and suspicion the narrative elicits.
- The money for survivors will be gone in a few years, and doesn't matter anyway.
- Israel playing the victim card will fall flat internationally given the pressure from their religious right to displace the Palestinians.
- New generations in other nations resent the eternal reproach of the holocaust even if they don't question it.
- They are an intellectually curious people at best, so repressing research, deferring to Elie Wiesel's "memory", geysers of blood and pillars of fire and all, and excluding themselves from what Faurisson calls "the great intellectual adventure of the 21st century" can have no intrinsic appeal for them.
- They can't move to a one state solution with a holocaust indoctrinated population.
- There could be kudos in admitting they were (half) wrong - it's a prophetic tradition after all.
- The narrative depends more on politics than scholarship anyway.

It seems unlikely that Netanyahu was so moved by the recent stabbings that he spoke in anger - he's too old a warhorse.

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Breker » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 12:21 pm)

This exemplifies the problem of telling lies from the beginning. The Zionists are now caught in their own web.
At one moment they claim the Mufti, according to the thoroughly discredited Eichmann statements, was involved in the crazy 6,000,000, but when those like Netanyahu take the lie and run with it the house of cards falters. These are great moments to be experiencing.
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Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the "Holocaust" narrative is the message.

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Thames Darwin » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:12 pm)

Hannover wrote:The communist from Stasi - Soviet East Germany, Merkel


Merkel is a communist because she was born in East Germany? I assume, therefore, this goes for anyone born in Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Brandenburg, Vorpommern-Mecklenburg, Thüringen, and Berlin-Ost? Or just the ones you disagree with?

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Hannover » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:34 pm)

Thames Darwin asks:
Merkel is a communist because she was born in East Germany? I assume, therefore, this goes for anyone born in Sachsen, Sachsen-Anhalt, Brandenburg, Vorpommern-Mecklenburg, Thüringen, and Berlin-Ost? Or just the ones you disagree with?
No, she's a communist because she voluntarily, enthusiastically joined communist organizations.
The rest above is classic Thames Darwin strawman stuff.

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Happily strolling around in her E.German communist uniform with her communist friends.

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Mrs Merkel was the voluntary propaganda secretary for the communist youth movement, the FDJ.

That was easy.

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The 'holocaust' storyline is one of the most easily debunked narratives ever contrived. That is why those who question it are arrested and persecuted. That is why violent, racist, & privileged Jewish supremacists demand censorship. What sort of truth is it that crushes the freedom to seek the truth? Truth needs no protection from scrutiny.

The tide is turning.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Dresden » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:48 pm)

Hannover said:

"That was easy"

Like taking candy from a baby.
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Benjamin Netanyahu: Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews

Postby Hektor » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:26 pm)

..... He just wanted to expel them, but then the Grand Mufti convinced him to do otherwise:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNpnfflmjuc


You can't make this up, they twist the story as it fits them. It's good to know though that a fellow Holocaust Revisionist is prime minister of Israel :lol:

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Re: Guess who thinks Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews

Postby Inquisitor » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:08 pm)

"This is taught in German schools for good reason, it must never be forgotten. And I see no reason to change our view of history in any way. We know that responsibility for this crime against humanity is German and very much our own."


Talk about wallowing in it! The stench of absolute masochism hangs over this verbal garbage!

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Re: Benjamin Netanyahu: Hitler didn't want to exterminate the Jews

Postby Tomt » 4 years 1 month ago (Wed Oct 21, 2015 5:47 pm)

So I wonder if his wik page is going to change to read "Benjamin Netanyahu is a holocaust denier and is prime minister of Israel."


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