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news: Estonians honor SS veterans

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 1:49 pm)

More indication of the growing awareness that the 'holocau$t' as alleged is a fraud, not to mention the utter fatigue of hearing the judeo-supremacists spew their lies. And none of the 'Jewish groups' mentioned in this article can back up their assertions. Read on.

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Estonians honor SS veterans

Outrage as SS men hold anniversary celebration in Estonia
The Independent, London 07 July 2004 , 14:42 GMT

MOSCOW—The EU newcomer Estonia was accused of amorality and gross historical insensitivity yesterday after it allowed veterans of the Nazi Waffen-SS to parade through its capital Tallinn.

The event saw veterans of the 20th Estonian SS division attend a church service, lay flowers at a war memorial and attend a celebratory concert.

The planned unveiling of a memorial to Estonian SS troops was cancelled at the last minute, however, and is not now expected to take place until the autumn.

Jewish groups pointed out that Estonian volunteers in the SS were responsible for the almost complete annihilation of the country's Jewish population during the Second World War.

Tallinn City Council gave yesterday's event its blessing. It said that it was a "political matter" but, despite promises to the contrary, failed to provide an explanation of why it had agreed to the commemoration.

When asked to comment, Estonia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs said the matter was not within its competence, while a government spokesman who apparently specialises in the subject did not respond to inquiries. Officials said that anything concerning Estonia's SS fighters was "highly sensitive". Estonian SS units were formed in 1942 on the personal orders of Adolf Hitler, whose troops then occupied the tiny country. Their fighting prowess was said to have impressed the German Wehrmacht.

Organisers said the celebration was held to mark the 60th anniversary of battles fought by the Estonian SS against the Soviet army and to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the withdrawal of Russian troops from the country.

Many Estonians regard the SS veterans as freedom fighters who fought alongside the Germans to stave off Soviet occupation - the country was occupied by the Soviets before and after the war - and argue that they are military men rather than fascists. They see nothing shameful or controversial in such events and view external criticism as an attempt to blacken Estonia's name.

Government sources say that Estonia is a free country that respects freedom of assembly and that the country's history is not as black and white as it is often made out to be. Jewish groups strongly disagree.

Yevgeny Satanovsky, president of the Russian Jewish Congress, said: "The problem is that the SS is the same institution which had death squads. This meeting is absolutely amoral. They were members of a structure which was a structure of blood and death. Let their children look at their faces and see that there were rivers of [Jewish] blood in Estonia because of them."

Mr Satanovsky suggested that the country's apparently benign attitude towards SS veterans reflected ordinary Estonians' general indifference to the plight of the country's Jews. "Much of the population was absolutely neutral. They were not interested in the rivers of blood, in the extermination of their neighbours who they had lived with peacefully for hundreds of years or in the assassination of women and children.

"Very few of them hid Jewish children. [But] they were interested in getting new property."

Yesterday's event, organised by a group called the Union of Freedom Fighters which claims 3,000 members, is not unprecedented; similar events have been held 11 times since the country won its independence from the Soviet Union in 1991.

Earlier this year Jewish groups were similarly outraged when a statue to a colonel in the SS alleged to have the blood of thousands of Jews and Russians on his hands was erected in the north of the country. The unveiling of the statue - to Colonel Alfons Rebane - was attended by a member of the Estonian parliament and the government itself refused to condemn it, let alone insist on its destruction.

The way in which the Estonian SS veterans are treated by the authorities generates particular anger in the country's former imperial master Russia, which regards the elderly fighters as beyond the pale.

"Today Estonian fascists represent themselves as 'the noble fighters for the freedom of Estonia'. But the words 'the struggle for freedom' cannot stand near the swastika and the two horrible letters SS," said the Interfax news agency, which is closely connected to the Russian government.
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Postby Juan » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:13 pm)

Freedom fighters indeed, those geezers.

I'd like to see estonian jews asking forgiveness for their coreligionists' role in soviet brutalities in this little country.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:09 pm)

Too bad more countries isn't like that!

They were the true heroes in my mind [SS], sorry. But I just can't believe these well-disciplined men would ever commit such horrible acts. They followed a very strict code of conduct, unlike the 'Allies' who killed anything which moved.

The SS also did not want people with a past record of crimes. If these absurd claims are valid; Then the SS would recruit such people. And if a crime was detected they would deal with it. Remember Koch?
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:48 pm)

What most don't realize is that the SS prosecuted any SS men involved in atrocities. I believe it was the SS judge Morgen who actually laid down the law. Whereas the Allies turned a blind eye to the unspeakable behavior of their troops.

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Postby gonzo » 1 decade 5 years ago (Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:37 am)

It is nice to see Estonia has a backbone..

An Estonian told me once (he may have been re-quoting) ...."With the Germans, they took away some of our freedoms....with the Soviets , they took away our souls.". Any Estonian if given the "choice" would have preferred German occupation over the Soviets


They were the true heroes in my mind [SS], sorry

dont be sorry, I for one agree. they were fighting for their country !
My Uncle, and great Uncles and cousins ALL fought for Germany in both wars...I am extremely proud of them.

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