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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby Hektor » 3 years 3 months ago (Mon Jul 04, 2016 1:20 pm)

phdnm wrote:
He was the Doomsday weapon against all Holocaust deniers
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MK Stern: Elie Wiesel was a doomsday weapon against Holocaust deniers

Chairman of the Lobby for Holocaust Survivors, MK Eliezer Stern (Yesh Atid), mourns the passing of Elie Wiesel:

"I had the merit of knowing him personally. The conversations between us always focused on the connection between the Holocaust and recovery therefrom, as well as the challenges we face inside Israel and among Diaspora Jewry. Elie was the true mouthpiece for human values, combining Judaism with the Jewish people over history, especially the Holocaust.

He was the Doomsday weapon against all Holocaust deniers, and a faithful ambassador of "Never Again" for the Jewish nation among generations of world leaders."


http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/ ... 3qX_DLr19B



That's quite rich - Chuzpe?

Actually he may have been a useful too to brainwash schoolchildren, but he was also a very insight-giving source to those pesky "Holocaust Deniers".

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby Moderator » 3 years 3 months ago (Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:43 pm)

Sweetie Pie:
Please comment at appropriate thread as given for discussion:
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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby blacksmith » 3 years 3 months ago (Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:36 am)

The high priest of holo mania is dead. You must give the man credit though, he, single-handedly did more to advance the holofraud than any other Jew, including Wiesenthal. But fate caught up with him, he lost all his ill-gotten gains to another swindler, a fellow traveller. Wiesel was a disgusting human being who was honoured by all Western states as a great man, including the Nobel Peace Prise (or should it be spelled "price") Committee. People who looked up to him proving that hving an education does not make you a smart person.

The reason I really dislike Wiesel is the way he promoted hate. Not even the wildest Nazi came out with a statement as criminal as "you must reserve in your heart a special place to hate the Germans" (or words to that effect, and he got away with it. With that statement he was up there with the bloodiest of all hate propagandists, Ilia Ehrenburg.

The high priest is dead and now it is time to kill the hate crime legislation on "holohoax denial". Let's get back to normalcy!

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby Hegwood » 3 years 3 months ago (Tue Jul 05, 2016 8:59 pm)

Did any one of the tens of thousands of internees of Auschwitz who ultimately survived the war ever try to support Wiesel's tale about the Germans throwing babies into the flames of a fire burning in a trench?
So called survivors seemed to want to be creative in their story telling rather than provide a consistent scenario by supporting someone else's lie, so I doubt it. But I really don't know. Does anyone know of a such a supporting tale?

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby RememberDresden » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:09 am)

Unfortunately, he's probably faking death too. Only to emerge later and write a book about it for profit.

I have also wondered for two decades why no one has spoken up to challenge or ridicule the "baby bonfire" farce. Apparently the messiah of exterminationism and all his inventions are untouchable.

"Klaus!! Nein nein!! Don't throw the body of the middle aged postal clerk in the baby bonfire! That's für kinder only!!" :roll:

I wanted Mr. Weasel to one day answer for everything, but perhaps this is a step towards free debate and truthfulness.

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby borjastick » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:10 am)

Given how lauded Mr Wiesel was by Lords, ladies, Presidents and national leaders all over the world, I was very surprised to note how quickly they buried him and how low key the ceremony, or lack of, was. Sort of suggests to me he was a liability and if they shout too loudly about his departure from this earth they will invite people to delve into his story. People who perhaps hitherto had known little of the man. When they delve and ask a few questions the holocaust myth is one step further blown open.

As mentioned on this forum many times before the so called 'witnesses' are in fact the holocaust's weakest links in the golden chain.
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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby sweetie pie » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:39 am)

borjastick wrote:Given how lauded Mr Wiesel was by Lords, ladies, Presidents and national leaders all over the world, I was very surprised to note how quickly they buried him and how low key the ceremony, or lack of, was. Sort of suggests to me he was a liability and if they shout too loudly about his departure from this earth they will invite people to delve into his story. People who perhaps hitherto had known little of the man. When they delve and ask a few questions the holocaust myth is one step further blown open.

As mentioned on this forum many times before the so called 'witnesses' are in fact the holocaust's weakest links in the golden chain.



I don't know why so many people are saying this. I believe the quick burial was in line with Orthodox Jewish practice, as they said. Plus Monday was the Fourth of July celebration, so it makes sense they would want to avoid that day. Now that Wiesel is safely under the ground, arm and all, I am sure there will be some big memorials coming up in the future, like at USHMM. If that doesn't happen, then you may be right.

There also was not a hint that Wiesel was on his deathbed, and he did decline slowly, not suddenly. The secrecy and control of information about Wiesel has always been very tight, and will remain so.

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby borjastick » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:02 pm)

sweetie pie wrote:
borjastick wrote:Given how lauded Mr Wiesel was by Lords, ladies, Presidents and national leaders all over the world, I was very surprised to note how quickly they buried him and how low key the ceremony, or lack of, was. Sort of suggests to me he was a liability and if they shout too loudly about his departure from this earth they will invite people to delve into his story. People who perhaps hitherto had known little of the man. When they delve and ask a few questions the holocaust myth is one step further blown open.

As mentioned on this forum many times before the so called 'witnesses' are in fact the holocaust's weakest links in the golden chain.



I don't know why so many people are saying this. I believe the quick burial was in line with Orthodox Jewish practice, as they said. Plus Monday was the Fourth of July celebration, so it makes sense they would want to avoid that day. Now that Wiesel is safely under the ground, arm and all, I am sure there will be some big memorials coming up in the future, like at USHMM. If that doesn't happen, then you may be right.

There also was not a hint that Wiesel was on his deathbed, and he did decline slowly, not suddenly. The secrecy and control of information about Wiesel has always been very tight, and will remain so.


The speed of his burial and the coincidental date clash with Independence Day does not stop certain elevated people from attending and of course the publicity that one would have expected around this event. It didn't happen.

I really hope that some mortuary guard/worker was a revisionist and took a picture of his body that shows no tattoo. Now that would be a result.
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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby Hannover » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:09 pm)

sweetie pie said:
There also was not a hint that Wiesel was on his deathbed, and he did decline slowly, not suddenly. The secrecy and control of information about Wiesel has always been very tight, and will remain so.

I think it's more a case of the Germans using a very slow delayed action gas on Wiesel. We all know those 'Nazis' could do the impossible. :lol:

recall:
Gas chambers on wheels in Treblinka, which dumped their victims directly into burning pits; delayed-action poison gas that allowed the victims to leave the gas chambers and walk to the mass graves by themselves;[11]

[11] Reports of the Polish underground movement, Archiv der Polnischen Vereinigten Arbeiterpartei, 202/III, v. 7, pp. 120f., quoted in: P. Longerich, op. cit.(note 271), p. 438.

Question that Polish underground quote and you will go to jail in many countries.

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby Hannover » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:31 pm)

Ah yes, division in the ranks. Which gives support to borjastick's thinking that Wiesels' death was somewhat downplayed by the usual enemies of free speech.

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http://www.breitbart.com/california/201 ... sel-death/
Another Democrat Trashes Elie Wiesel: ‘Holocaust Whore’

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Dorothy Reik

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Another prominent Democrat has trashed Elie Wiesel — the Holocaust survivor, author, and Nobel Peace laureate who died on Saturday. Dorothy Reik, president of the Progressive Democrats of the Santa Monica Mountains and a member of the Los Angeles County Democratic Central Committee, wrote an email quoting a reference to Wiesel as a “Holocaust whore” and adding: “I had met people who made their livings from the holocaust [sic] but never to the extent that Wiesel did.”

Reik had been defending Max Blumenthal, the virulently anti-Israel writer and son of Hillary Clinton adviser Sid Blumenthal, who had tweeted: “Elie Wiesel is dead. He spent his last years inciting hatred, defending apartheid & palling around with fascists.”

"Alone the fact that one may not question the Jewish "holocaust" and that Jewish pressure has inflicted laws on democratic societies to prevent questions—while incessant promotion and indoctrination of the same averredly incontestable ‘holocaust’ occur—gives the game away. It proves that it must be a lie. Why else would one not be allowed to question it? Because it might offend the "survivors"? Because it "dishonors the dead"? Hardly sufficient reason to outlaw discussion. No, because the exposure of this leading lie might precipitate questions about so many other lies and cause the whole ramshackle fabrication to crumble."

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby RememberDresden » 3 years 3 months ago (Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:12 am)

So I can't help but wonder, when the final "survivor" passes away with what will they arm themselves? With the Nurenburg judgement coupled with Raul Hilberg's flawed opus? Am I alone in suspecting that all of those on the fence and those burying logic-based questions have been silent due to respect to throngs of mistreated oldsters, be they genuine or not.
It would appear the chance to gain some real ground would be then.

It's ok to doubt and ridicule the Christian God and his religion but don't dare attempt the same to the Holocaust religion, the saints, and the scripture.

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby blacksmith » 3 years 3 months ago (Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:26 pm)

The problem, Dresden, is that there isn't a solid Christian Leader. Look at the Pope, he is the representative of the God of the Christians and should have no truck with any other religion. either we are the only true religion or we aint! There a billion Christians wondering in the wilderness and just 15 million Jews , because they are focused run the world. All world leaders bow down before them, it is totally ridiculous but it is a fact. We need another honest man like Hitler to gets us out of our troubles.

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby Bonesy » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 14, 2016 7:15 am)

phdnm wrote:
He was the Doomsday weapon against all Holocaust deniers


Elie Wiesel was a doomsday weapon against Holocaust deniers


Oh dear :lol:

Odd statement considering he was held in such high regard by the Holocaust™ industry. Elie 'the weasel' Wiesel seemed to do more damage to the narrative than support it.

Still no tattoo either I suppose.
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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby PRHL » 3 years 3 months ago (Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:14 am)

[quote="blacksmith" (Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:26 pm)]The problem, Dresden, is that there isn't a solid Christian Leader. Look at the Pope, he is the representative of the God of the Christians and should have no truck with any other religion.[/quote]
Please search for the word "sedevacantism".
In Germany, both sedevacantism and revisionism are illegal and can easily be punished with lots of years in jail.
Both sedevacantism and revisionism (among other topics) are discussed in my texts and videos.

Concerning sedevacantism (English - published five years ago):
https://gloria.tv/video/L9jh4woe9KpD5MLXpR8HHzfhC

Concerning Elie Wiesel (German - published recently, a few days after Wiesel's death):
https://gloria.tv/video/FNKTzkKu7D2K4ySc1B2bRvkLq

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Re: Elie Wiesel dead at 87

Postby phdnm » 3 years 2 months ago (Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:24 pm)

We shall never get rid of him :evil:

Bill honoring life of Elie Wiesel approved by House committee


July 17, 2016

A bill to honor the life and work of Elie Wiesel was approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

The bill was introduced earlier this month by three congressional members of the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Council — Reps. Steve Israel, D-N.Y.; Patrick Meehan, D-Pa., and Ted Deutch, D-Fla.

Wiesel, who was well known internationally for his many books, essays and educational projects about the Holocaust, died on July 2 at 87. He won the Nobel Peace Prize in 1986.

The bill, which had the bipartisan co-sponsorship of 158 Congress members, “memorializes the life and work of Elie Wiesel and reaffirms the Congress’ commitment to continuing his work of keeping the memory and lessons of the Holocaust alive and preventing similar atrocities from occurring in the future,” said a statement from Deutch’s office.

“Elie Wiesel committed his entire life to ensuring that the memory of the victims of the Holocaust live on, both through education of the horrors of the Holocaust and through advocacy in preventing future atrocities,” Deutch said. “This resolution reflects our appreciation and deep respect, and he will be remembered as one of the greatest and most courageous and influential humanitarians of our lifetime.”

Wiesel had been awarded numerous honors from the United States, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the Congressional Gold Medal, the National Humanities Medal and the Medal of Liberty.


http://www.jta.org/2016/07/17/news-opin ... -committee


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