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Edith Stein's demise

Postby bookingman » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon May 01, 2017 4:59 pm)

One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz. What is the consensus here for her real cause of death and the details.

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby HeiligeSturm » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon May 01, 2017 5:16 pm)

bookingman wrote:One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz..

Do you know which one? “The little red house”? “the little white house,”? Crematorium I in Auschwitz stammlager?
She died in late 1942 and Kremas II-V were built/completed after that in 1943.
Carol Stulberg: Were you ever in the gas chamber? Did you see the gas chamber?
Morris Venezia: Of course I was every day over there.
Carol Stulberg: Can you describe to us what it looked like?
Morris Venezia: It’s nothing to describe

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby Rogal Dorn » 2 years 3 months ago (Tue May 02, 2017 5:38 am)

I am still waiting for official figures on exactly how many died in the Auschwitz I gas chamber shown to millions of tourists today. So far the only figure I heard is "several hundred thousand" for crema II and III and a "smaller number" for IV and V. Nothing for the red/white house and the aforementioned tourist hotspot, not even estimates.

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby bookingman » 2 years 3 months ago (Tue May 02, 2017 9:46 am)

HeiligeSturm wrote:
bookingman wrote:One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz..

Do you know which one? “The little red house”? “the little white house,”? Crematorium I in Auschwitz stammlager?
She died in late 1942 and Kremas II-V were built/completed after that in 1943.


How did she die?

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby Zulu » 2 years 3 months ago (Tue May 02, 2017 11:16 am)

bookingman wrote:How did she die?

When asked this question, I usually answer: what do the files at ITS of Bad Arolsen tell about her?
Was that basic research ever made? If yes, what are the results?
As such research is not open for anyone, I couldn't make it by myself.

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby hermod » 2 years 3 months ago (Wed May 03, 2017 4:17 am)

Good to know that the advocates of the orthodox narrative don't even know with certainty WHEN she died.

On 7 August 1942, early in the morning, 987 Jews were deported to the Auschwitz concentration camp. It was probably on 9 August that Sr. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross, her sister, and many more of her people were killed in a mass gas chamber.[3][9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Ste ... and_martyr


Since even the orthodox narrative doesn't claim that she was killed on arrival, one can deduce that she was registered in the camp records. Wasn't her death recorded in the death registers of the camp?
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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby permanent_denial » 2 years 3 months ago (Wed May 03, 2017 9:40 am)

hermod wrote:Good to know that the advocates of the orthodox narrative don't even know with certainty WHEN she died.

On 7 August 1942, early in the morning, 987 Jews were deported to the Auschwitz concentration camp. It was probably on 9 August that Sr. Teresa Benedicta of the Cross, her sister, and many more of her people were killed in a mass gas chamber.[3][9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Ste ... and_martyr


Since even the orthodox narrative doesn't claim that she was killed on arrival, one can deduce that she was registered in the camp records. Wasn't her death recorded in the death registers of the camp?


Indeed, if you search the Auschwitz prisoner database below for "Edith Stein," you will find her name and date of birth, October 12, 1891, as a registered prisoner at Auschwitz.

http://auschwitz.org/en/museum/auschwitz-prisoners/

However, the source of the information is listed as "Judentransport aus den Niederlanden - Lager Westerbork - Transportlists created in Westerbork."

It explains:

Database of Dutch Jews of transports from Westerbork to Auschwitz include more than 46 000 people in 51 separate transportlists. These convoys were arriving to Auschwitz-Birkenau since 15 July 1942 till 23 February 1943. Majority of the deportees were murdered in the gas chambers immediately after selection on the unloading ramp - we do not know their names. The rest were registered as a prisoners in the camp, but only a small group of them managed to survived and get back homes.


I'm not able to find the original source of this database, though.

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby hermod » 2 years 3 months ago (Wed May 03, 2017 10:53 pm)

Is Edith Stein mentioned in any document(s) from the Arolsen archives or in the Auschwitz death books?

Interesting paper on this topic by Pr. Faurisson:

viewtopic.php?p=25914#p25914
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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby HeiligeSturm » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon May 08, 2017 3:54 pm)

bookingman wrote:
HeiligeSturm wrote:
bookingman wrote:One of the more famous figures, the 'official' story is that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz..

Do you know which one? “The little red house”? “the little white house,”? Crematorium I in Auschwitz stammlager?
She died in late 1942 and Kremas II-V were built/completed after that in 1943.


How did she die?


You wrote "that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz" and I was asking do you know which one it was?
Obviously she did not die in the "gas chambers" of Birkenau according to the officially accepted timeline.
She could have died of typhus like Anne Frank at Bergen-Belsen.
She is famous but her time at Auschwitz is not well known.
Of course her Jewish background gives people the assumption that she was gassed just like some people still believe that Anne Frank was gassed.
Carol Stulberg: Were you ever in the gas chamber? Did you see the gas chamber?
Morris Venezia: Of course I was every day over there.
Carol Stulberg: Can you describe to us what it looked like?
Morris Venezia: It’s nothing to describe

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Re: Edith Stein's demise

Postby bookingman » 2 years 3 months ago (Mon May 08, 2017 10:06 pm)

HeiligeSturm wrote:You wrote "that she died in the gas chamber in Auschwitz" and I was asking do you know which one it was?
Obviously she did not die in the "gas chambers" of Birkenau according to the officially accepted timeline.
She could have died of typhus like Anne Frank at Bergen-Belsen.
She is famous but her time at Auschwitz is not well known.
Of course her Jewish background gives people the assumption that she was gassed just like some people still believe that Anne Frank was gassed.


I was quoting the official narrative. Check it out for yourself, I haven't seen them go into it with more detail than "She was gassed in Auschwitz". I was hoping to find more here.

Actually even the mainstream doesn't say Anne Frank was gassed.


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