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Re: The new JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Hektor » 1 year 1 month ago (Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:43 pm)

Dresden wrote:Review said:

"All historians are re-visionist, who re-view and re-vise history :wink: "

Not all historians are Holocaust Revisionists.
This thread is about Jewish Holocaust Revisionists.
This Forum is not about history in general, but about the Holocaust specifically.

On a side note:

Almost every historian of WWII in the world right now is a liar and a coward; they can't possibly be as stupid as they pretend to be.

"There is no single, eternal, and immutable "truth" about past events and their meaning"

Oh, yes there is.....it's called the Holocaust.


There is or was a single, eternal, immutable, objective reality in the past. The point is there are several challenges to reconstruct and describe it correctly for a number of reason. Some of those are, plain and simple:
- A persons point of view is naturally subjective to get a fair view of the bigger picture is intellectually challenging.
- We have to rely on other people for the knowledge and information we have.
- Limited facts are available.
- Human knowledge and information storage capacity are limited.
- We are naturally biased, due to our own biographies and life experiences.
- There is systematic promotion of certain narratives by lobby groups, while certain facts are ignored or even suppressed.
- Most historians and academic researchers are bound into a power structure. They may deny it, but it's clear can't say or do what they want. If they deviate from a paradigm, it will have repercussions for them.

Of course there is still a difference between someone that uses make-up-as-you-go arguments and someone that really tries to find all available facts, studies them and tries to recreate a fair picture of past events. But it's also a difference in degree. That's why it's important to have a number of Points of View available.

As for another Jewish Revisionist I bring you - Henry Herskovitz:
Henry Herskovitz is a member of Jews for Justice for Germans (JFJFG), an group whose aims and objectives include calling on Elie Weisel to apologize for his statement calling on Jews to “set apart a zone of hate -- healthy virile hate” for Germans, to open the discussion of the history of “interactions between Germans and Jews 1933-1945” and to repeal all Holocaust denial laws, to end German reparation payments to Israel and Jewish survivors of Holocaust, to discuss the possible repayment of reparations back to Germany, and to “ begin discussions about the role of Jews in the suffering inflicted on Germans since 1945 and, if appropriate, to make arrangements for apology, reparation and compensation."

Henry Herskovitz is an outspoken anti-Zionist and historical revisionist,. Henry Herskovitz shares the views of Ernst Zundel, a German publisher known for promoting Holocaust revisionism and author of the "Hitler we Loved and Why" who was jailed for "spreading false news" but the conviction was later overturned by the Supreme Court of Canada when the law criminalizing reporting false news was ruled unconstitutional. Following his visit, Henry Herskovitz wrote, "Ernst Zundel, the reputed anti-Semitic devil, did not merely shake hands with me; he held mine in his. Eight years later the memory remains strong." On his blog, Henry Herskovitz published a test to distinguish “a peace and justice activist” from a “Zionist pretender”.

Quotes:

"Has the world indeed been duped into believing that the National Socialist government of Germany were the all-time perpetrators of ultimate evil in the world, or has the fabric of the standard Holocaust narrative been ripped substantially by Hilberg’s admission, now thirty years old?" - Henry Herskovitz

"Haven’t the German people – seventy years after the real or alleged crimes of WWII – suffered sufficiently?" … "the German people get tossed under the wheels of the Jewish Power bus." - Henry Herskovitz

"Jews know hatred, and they also know manipulation. How to conceal the obvious hatred their religion and culture promote, while in true Orwellian fashion accuse others of what they do best.- Henry Herskovitz

https://localwiki.org/ann-arbor/Henry_Herskovitz

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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Mortimer » 1 year 2 weeks ago (Mon Aug 06, 2018 6:04 am)

I came across a website which is believe it or not called "Jews for Hitler". At first I thought it was a parody like something out of the pages of Mad Magazine but apparently they are genuine. They have a documentary called The Holocaust - Shifting the Blame.
https://jewsforhitler.com/index-a.htm
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Daniel » 1 year 3 days ago (Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:42 pm)

At least as early as 1994 Robert Faurisson foresaw the possibility of Jewry taking credit for discovering the fraudulence of the holocaust. I'm a bit leery of some, and maybe all, Jews who dabble in holocaust revisionism. I'm skeptical of the view that when the world finds out the holocaust is a fraud that this will spell doom for Jewish hegemony.

From Faurisson's preface to Dissecting the Holocaust (1994):

I think that the co-religionists of Mr. Berenbaum will at last abandon the gas chamber as they have abandoned the Jewish soap and the Auschwitz 4 million. They will go farther than that. As in the two previous cases, they will present themselves as the discoverers of the myth and accuse the Germans, the Poles, or the Communists of having fabricated the ‘myth of the gas chambers’. In support of their impudent thesis, they will then invoke the names of Jews who are Revisionists totally or in part (J.G. Burg, Jean-Gabriel Cohn-Bendit, Roger-Guy Dommergue, Arno Mayer, David Cole, Christopher Hitchens, Joel Hayward ?). They will then assign themselves the starring role.

At the same time, however, transforming the ‘Holocaust’ of the Jews into a religious belief, this time divested of all material content, they will be only the more inflexible in denouncing authentic Revisionists as ‘deniers’, or ‘negationists’, as being intolerant, heartless, basely materialistic and
hostile to the free expression of religious sentiments. For those Jews, the true Revisionists will thus continue to be diabolical in spirit even if they must be acknowledged to be in the right from a factual point of view.

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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Mortimer » 11 months 1 week ago (Mon Sep 17, 2018 3:46 am)

Ron Unz has written a lengthy and detailed article on why he thinks holocaust revisionism is worth investigating. The comments section is also very encouraging. Ron Unz deserves our full support.
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda ... st-denial/
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Panda » 9 months 2 days ago (Wed Nov 21, 2018 6:55 am)

That person also has place for videos on BitChute

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/jews_for_hitler/

Is it just me, or does that persons voice sound a bit like Erik Hunt?


Mortimer wrote:I came across a website which is believe it or not called "Jews for Hitler". At first I thought it was a parody like something out of the pages of Mad Magazine but apparently they are genuine. They have a documentary called The Holocaust - Shifting the Blame.
https://jewsforhitler.com/index-a.htm

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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Jim Russel » 6 months 23 hours ago (Fri Feb 22, 2019 12:32 pm)

Mortimer wrote:Ron Unz has written a lengthy and detailed article on why he thinks holocaust revisionism is worth investigating. The comments section is also very encouraging. Ron Unz deserves our full support.
http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pravda ... st-denial/


Ron Unz is the man of the year. There was a second article in October on what I call the hollow hoax where there's no doubt in his mind that the story is either partially or totally false. His very public "awakening" to the jewish question began last June with "The Remarkable Historiography of David Irving" portraying the historian very favorably. He's written or hosted articles discussing Israeli involvement in the 9/11 attacks, which is another big shibboleth. "Oddities of the Jewish Religion" was about how he grew up in a family where Yiddish was spoken and is such a smart guy and all but he has only recently learned about things that Israel Shahak, Elizabeth Dilling, Rev. Ted Pike, David Duke, Michael Hoffman, Gerard Menuhin, et al. have written about Jewish supremacism and its disdain for goyim. His "Has the ADL Gone Into Hiding?" was about him getting just a peep of protest from the ADL and Unz was publicly asking the ADL why they hadn't attacked him with vigor as he had expected.

Just a few days ago he had http://www.unz.com/ldinh/heart-of-darkness-germany/ where it's apparently taken for granted that the Holocaust is a hoax.

The tide is turning. Many people are being woke to the fact that what "everyone" believes is either illusion or delusion.

Re the tide turning, at youtube the state department had a page about Mike Pence's recent visit to Aushwitz and the public comments had a goodly numbeer, maybe as much as 1 of 3 expressing skepticism and even some disdain about the ostensible function of that work camp, with those commenters risking the loss of their account.

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Re: The new JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Mortimer » 4 months 3 weeks ago (Sun Mar 31, 2019 7:46 am)

Zulu wrote:Bobby Fischer must be on the list. Beside his deep antisemitism, he denied the reality of gas chambers.
I found hilarious his diatribe against jews in his interview on September 2000 there (no details about place and interviewer).

Bobby Fischer on the Jews

3:08 "There were no gas chambers. That's all baloney"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKJozoTJWcg

Fischer definitely supported holocaust revisionism. He was also highly critical of the United States government for its unwavering defense of Israel. Here is an article from the blog of John Wear - https://wearswar.wordpress.com/2019/03/ ... onal-hero/
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:18 pm)

Dr Alan Sabrosky is a 9/11 "truther" who has claimed Israel is responsible for the attacks. He earned a Masters degree in History and a doctorate in Political Science from the University of Michigan.

Sabrosky has a Jewish grandparent: https://archive.is/U8coE

According to this recent artle on Unz: https://www.unz.com/kbarrett/alan-israe ... n-america/

Alan “Israel Did 9/11” Sabrosky: Most Censored Man in America

Kevin Barrett • March 24, 2019

Who’s afraid of Alan Sabrosky? Whoever they are, they have the ability to monitor and censor YouTube live-streams in real time. And they apparently don’t want you to know what Sabrosky thinks about the Holocaust.

That’s the obvious takeaway from the highly unusual example of YouTube censorship that disrupted the March 22 live broadcast of False Flag Weekly News. The broadcast, which live-streamed from Vimeo to three different YouTube channels, transpired normally up to the 59:31 mark, when Sabrosky stated that the Holocaust was “a technological and logistical impossibility—“ and suddenly his mike was cut…but only on the YouTube stream, archived here:



Note: skip to about 59 minute mark
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Lamprecht » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:53 pm)

Jew Dr Pieczenik: "The Israelis Manufactured 'Holocaust' So That The U.S. Could Support Israel"


jew Dr. Steve Pieczenik Revises Holocaust Death Toll to Hundreds of Thousands
http://www.renegadetribune.com/jew-dr-s ... thousands/

This is not an endorsement of PsyOps expert Pieczenik, but rather just highlighting an interesting developing. If a European was to say exactly what Steve says here, he or she could be imprisoned for many years. He should let his audience know about Hellstorm, which details the incredible suffering of the German people during and after WW2.




"They (Israelis) created an industry that developed the holocaust.... Manufactured by the Israelis, so that the United States could support Israel to the tune of 80 to 100 billion dollars to date".
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Lamprecht » 1 month 6 days ago (Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:40 pm)

I am surprised that nobody mentioned Benjamin Freedman

In the 1 May 1959 edition of "Common Sense" magazine (page 4) Freedman authored an article titled "Six Million Jew Hoax" although I can not find the text of this article anywhere.

On Wikipedia he is listed as "Holocaust Denier"

He is more famous for his speech at the Willard Hotel, which is here:

Benjamin Freedman & Jewish guilt for Germany's WWI defeat
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Daniel » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:28 pm)

The May 1st, 1959 Common Sense Freedman article "Christians Duped by Unholiest Hoax in All of History" is here, on page 176:

https://archive.org/details/ChristianEd ... /page/n175

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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Lamprecht » 1 week 4 days ago (Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:11 pm)

Daniel wrote:The May 1st, 1959 Common Sense Freedman article "Christians Duped by Unholiest Hoax in All of History" is here, on page 176:

https://archive.org/details/ChristianEd ... /page/n175

Thank you Daniel. Here are some screens:

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It is unfortunately hard to read. However I stand corrected, the article was not called "Six Million Jew Hoax" but rather, it had a headline with that name inside of it.
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Re: The JEWISH REVISIONISTS thread

Postby Daniel » 1 week 3 days ago (Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:19 am)

Lamprecht wrote:
Daniel wrote:The May 1st, 1959 Common Sense Freedman article "Christians Duped by Unholiest Hoax in All of History" is here, on page 176:

https://archive.org/details/ChristianEd ... /page/n175

Thank you Daniel. Here are some screens:
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It is unfortunately hard to read. However I stand corrected, the article was not called "Six Million Jew Hoax" but rather, it had a headline with that name inside of it.


Italics are his. Asterisks are for unclear words or figures.

Six Million Jew Hoax, excerpted from "Christians Duped by Unholiest Hoax in All of History" by Benjamin Freedman, in Common Sense, May 1st, 1959.
On February 22, 1948 the New York Times published figures taken from their 1947 secret census indicating a minimum of 16,150,000 and a maximum of 19,200,000 so-called "Jews" in the world in 1947. Through the courtesy of Mr. Arthur Hays Sulzberger, publisher of the New York Times, this author conferred on February 23, 1948 with Commander Baldwin in his office where this author examined documents fully supporting the figures published by the New York Times on February 22, 1948. This author was allowed to examine the file containing the results of the searching investigations conducted by the New York Times through its own offices throughout the world and with the collaboration of governments and religious bodies in these foreign countries.

The American Jewish Committee Year Book of 1949-1950 and the Jewish Statistical Bureau of the Synagogue Council of America supplied the 1951 World Almanac with figures indicating only 11,303,350 so-called "Jews" in the world in 1949 against their figure of 16,613,120 in 1939. They then said the approximate 6,000,000 discrepancy resulted from 6,000,000 so-called "Jews" allegedly put to death in furnaces and gas chambers by the Germans solely because these 6,000,000 men, women and children were so-called "Jews." The New YOrk Times secret census of 1947 indicates there were more so-called "Jews" in the world in 1947 than before the advent of Adolph Hitler to power in Germany. This discrepancy should be reconciled to conform with the facts in fairness to the German nation still judged guilty of that delusion.

The leading religious organizations of so-called "Jews" successfully conducted a campaign to prohibit U.S.A. census-takers from asking the church affiliation of persons questioned in the census to be taken in 1960. That question will not be asked in the 1960 census as a result of opposition to it by so-called "Jews" who claimed that question in the 1960 census is a violation of a "separation of church and state" Constitutional guarantee. Religious leaders avered* "it angered God to number the people," although a census was taken ten times in Old Testament history. The Christian 94% of the U.S.A. population offer no opposition in a census to questions about church affiliation.

The leading organizations of so-called "Jews" proudly proclaim two-thirds of so-called "Jews" in the world today are now in the U.S.A. Two-thirds of the New York Times 1947 minimum is 10,766,666. Two-thirds of New York Times 1947 maximum is 12,300,000*. These figures are at considerable variance* with the figure of 5,185,000 so-called "Jews" in the U.S.A. in 1949 issued by the American Jewish Committee Year Book of 1949-1950 and the Jewish Statistical Bureau of the Synagogue Council of America. The difference in these figures approximates the 6,000,000 so-called "Jews" allegedly put to death in furnaces and in gas chambers between 1939 and 1945 by the German nation.

The "big lie" technique of the unholiest hoax in all the recorded history of mankind brainwashed U.S.A. Christians to support Zionist aggresion against Palestine as their "Christian duty" to avenge the 6,000,000 men, women and children allegedly put to death in furnaces and gas chambers by the Germans. The U.S.A. media of mass-communications brainwashed Christians that it was their "Christian duty" to aid and abet "repatriations" of these so-called "Jews" to their ancient "homeland" in Palestine where they would be safe and secure against similar treatment by Christians in Christian countries in Europe and elsewhere if "repatriated" to their "homeland" among Moslems.

In view of the foregoing facts the Arab nations do not appear unreasonable in asking that Palestine be returned to its 1,000,000 rightful Arab owners driven into exile by Zionist aggression. The 80,000,000 Arabs are determined that Palestine be restored to its status before the Zionist aggression. This Arab determination is supported by 400,000,000 other Moslems. Until and unless Palestine is restored to the Palestinians in possession of Palestine before the liquidation of Palestine by Zionist aggressors the peace of the world will remain in danger. The security of the U.S.A. will remain in danger until peace with justice returns to the Middle East. The present and future status of Palestine will prove the product of U.S.A. ignorance and indifference. It may also prove the price the U.S.A. may pay for hatching out World War III.


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