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Revilo P. Oliver on the Holocaust

Postby Archie » 2 months 4 days ago (Mon Sep 28, 2020 2:36 am)

Revilo P. Oliver was a professor at University of Illinois at Urbana-Campaign specializing in classical philology. He was a noted right-wing commentator. He was friends with William F. Buckley. He was also in the John Birch society briefly but left because he thought they were too soft. He moved further right with age with his later writings became more strongly polemical. I was going though some of his 1981 book America's Decline and he offers some rather blunt opinions about the Holocaust.

America's Decline: https://archive.org/details/AmericasDecline1983V2

The Americans and British, however, deem themselves more civilized than Hulagu and less sadistic. And at the time that they, in their official policy of Rightfulness and savagery, were incinerating their own blood brothers and sisters in Dresden, they were howling with indignation over the supposed extermination by the Germans of some millions of Jews, many of whom had taken the opportunity to crawl into the United States, and while Americans seem to feel a particular reverence for God's People, one could have supposed in 1945 that when the hoax, devised to pep up the cattle that were being stampeded into Europe, was exposed, even Americans would feel some indignation at having been so completely bamboozled.

The prompt exposure of the bloody, swindle seemed inevitable, particularly since the agents of the O.S.S., commonly known in military circles as the Office of Soviet Stooges, who had been dispatched to conquered Germany to set up gas chambers to lend some verisimilitude to the hoax, had been so lazy and feckless that they merely sent back pictures of shower baths, which were so absurd that they had to be suppressed to avoid ridicule. No one could have believed in 1945 that the lie would be used to extort thirty billion dollars from the helpless Germans and would be rammed into the minds of German children by uncouth American "educators" — or that civilized men would have to wait until 1950 for Paul Rassinier, who had been himself a prisoner in a German concentration camp, to challenge the infamous lie, or until 1976 for Professor Arthur Butz's detailed and exhaustive refutation of the venomous imposture on Aryan credulity. (pg 17-18)

The comment that one heard so frequently under the "New Deal" expressed concisely the sentiments of many Americans: "We need a Hitler here." The German statesman was often referred to sympathetically, with a smiling allusion to a product that was then widely advertised, as "The Dutch Cleanser" and his policy of encouraging the emigration of Jews from his country was so generally approved that, despite the lamentations of holy men, well-paid journalists, and sentimental women, the Jews were able to arouse only scant sympathy before they invented the hoax about "gas chambers" and the "extermination" of God's Own People. The great mass of Jews, who obviously were what some of the more literate openly boasted they were, an "island within" and an alien nation lodged in the United States, whether they were small shopkeepers who, by their industry and craft, could usually undermine and drive out of business competing goyim, or mighty financiers, manipulating markets and subsidizing Bolsheviks, were an infection that the nation could not endure indefinitely ... (pg 21-22)

And, as the Jews well know, the great humanitarian, whose soul shudders today at the very thought of insufficient veneration of the Jews, could become tomorrow grateful to the Jews only for the wonderful idea about gas chambers that was incorporated in the hoax about the "six million", and he would probably find a real personal satisfaction in putting the idea into practice at last. (pg 82)

It is well known that the National Socialist government of Germany exerted itself to obtain a homeland for the Jews in Palestine, in Madagascar, and in a large part of the territory of the former Russian Empire; the efforts were successively frustrated by Great Britain, France, and the defeat of Germany in 1945.

It was so completely forgotten that it was not mentioned six years later by Edwin D Schoonmaker in his Democracy and World Dominion (New York, 1939), Although the author, writing to avert American involvement in the European war that he foresaw, believed, as did the stupid British and French, that Britain and France would attack Germany to preserve their colonial empires, he was fully aware of the Jewish conquest of Russia by subversion in 1917-18 and of the Jews' designs to use their British, French, and Russian subjects to invade and destroy Germany, as shown, inter alia, by an article in the American Hebrew that he quotes (p. 222). His failure to cite Untermeyer indicates that the yell for a holy war in 1933 had been forgotten by Americans. (pg 108-109)

...there may have been a further purpose in a hope that after the war it would be possible to carry out the Jewish plan, formulated and published by Theodore Kaufman in 1941, to exterminate the entire population of Germany as an object lesson to lower races that might want to have a country of their own, not under the management of God's People. Since that proved not to be feasible, the hoax was used as a pretext for the obscene murders perpetrated at Nuremberg by the American, Soviet, British, and French victors, for their repudiation of the conventions, called international law, that had been observed by all civilized nations, and for the innumerable and ghastly atrocities by which all the victors, guided by their Jewish supervisors, equally and forever forfeited their claim to be morally superior to Attila's Huns or Hulagu's Mongols. And the hoax is still being used to loot Germany and, indirectly, all the nations of the West to subsidize the Jewish seizure of Palestine and adjacent lands.

It is no longer possible to think of a deception of many by a few. The utter falsity of this hoax, which was made the more preposterous when the physically impossible gas chambers were invented to dress it up, was necessarily known to hundreds of thousands of Jews who remained on German territory during the insane war, many of whom - probably 250,000 - the Germans naturally interned as domestic enemies, although not with the thoroughness with which the Americans put resident Japanese in concentration camps during 1942-45. The Jews who remained in Germany, both those who were foolishly trusted and held governmental positions and those who were confined to the various camps, necessarily knew that there were no 'gas chambers' and there was no 'extermination' (although, of course, many individuals died from disease, old age, and Anglo-American bombing raids on the various camps, and, no doubt, some were slain by individual Germans when they foresaw the defeat and ruin of their country by the maddened hordes that the international race had mobilized against them - and by the Polish and Russian populations of occupied territories when the German armies failed to control their long-standing resentment of their parasites). Furthermore, since the race has always been truly international, many hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Jews throughout the world and especially in the United States must have known or suspected the truth when their supposedly exterminated relatives flocked into the country or corresponded with them. In addition, there must have been a considerable number of Jews who, even if without sources of direct information, were intelligent enough to see that the hoax was inherently incredible, psychologically improbable and physically impossible. But nevertheless, so far as I know, only one Jew, Josef Ginsburg, who resided in German or Rumanian territory throughout the war, has borne witness that there was no German policy to "exterminate" his race; and although he published his books under the pseudonym of J. G. Burg, he only accidentally escaped death at the hands of Jewish terrorists in Munich. (pg 464-465)

He also has offers some broader WWII revisionism.

Page 16: "In 1944 members of British Military Intelligence took it for granted that after the war Marshal Sir Arthur Harris would be hanged or shot for high treason against the British people..."

Page 11-12: "Everyone now knows, of course, that the message to the Japanese Ambassador in Washington, warning him that Japan was about to attack the United States, was read by Military Intelligence not long after the Ambassador himself received it, and that the frantic cover-up, involving some successful lying about details, was intended, not to preserve that secret, but to protect the traitors in Washington who made certain that the Japanese attack, which they had labored so long to provoke..." He goes on to suggest Roosevelt sent a provocative message to the Portuguese that he knew the Japanese would be able to read and says this was a ruse to get war with Japan.
As expected, the Portuguese Ambassador communicated the glad tidings to the head of his government, using his most secure method of communication, an enciphered code which the Portuguese doubtless imagined to be "unbreakable," but which Roosevelt well knew had been compromised by the Japanese, who were currently reading all messages sent in it by wireless. The statement, ostensibly entrusted in "strict secrecy" to the Portuguese Ambassador, was, of course, intended for the Japanese government, and, as a matter of fact, it became certain that the trick had succeeded when the contents of the Portuguese Ambassador's message to Salazar promptly appeared in a Japanese message enciphered by the Purple Machine.

Oliver's Holocaust commentary here is pretty brief and not especially noteworthy for 1981 (although his writing style is pretty entertaining). And given his far-right politics, many will dismiss his opinions. BUT the main reason I'm sharing this is that apparently he occupied a fairly significant position in US military intelligence during the war. From another of his books, https://archive.org/details/TheJewishStrategy/page/n5/mode/2up
At the suggestion of a military friend, I agreed, sometime in 1941, to join a secret subsidiary of the War Department, and did so as soon as my academic responsibilities would permit, in 1942, remaining there until the autumn of 1945. By good luck, I found myself in charge of a rapidly expanding department, and soon advanced from Analyst to Director of Research, finding myself responsible for the work of c. 175 persons. The work was harrowing, for various reasons, but extremely instructive. I learned, for example, the ultimate secret of Pearl Harbor, which was evidently unknown to Admiral Theobald and which was not disclosed in print until 1981 (in my America s Decline, page 7).

In my mind, this gives his Holocaust comments a lot more weight. Here we have a guy who was in a position to be well-informed and at the same time we see he regards the six million and the gas chambers as utterly preposterous. We have a PhD academic who was military intelligence during the war and he rejects the Holocaust emphatically and with absolute confidence. Given the views of people such as Oliver, it seems that at minimum the matter is not so obvious as the orthodox historians insist. It also is hard to square with the theories that the Allies were aware of the Holocaust but wanted to focus on winning the war and so they kept it quiet.

Oliver is very similar to John Beaty who was also a PhD academic, also military intelligence during the war, also a right-wing anti-communist writer, and who also rejected the Holocaust.

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Re: Revilo P. Oliver on the Holocaust

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 2 months 3 days ago (Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:42 pm)

Thanks for posting. Revilo Oliver makes some great revisionist points. Who is John Beatty? Never heard of him.

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Re: Revilo P. Oliver on the Holocaust

Postby Archie » 2 months 3 days ago (Tue Sep 29, 2020 10:14 am)

Ron Unz mentioned Beaty in several of his American Pravda articles. That's where I heard about him. Beaty had a PhD in philosophy from Columbia and was a professor of English at SMU for a long time. From 1941-1947 he served as an intelligence officer in Washington DC, reaching the rank of Colonel. He prepared daily G-2 reports for officials in Washington. In 1951 he wrote a book called The Iron Curtain Over America, an anti-Communist book that was quite popular among conservatives at the time. It went through (if I recall correctly) something like 17 printings although it was later mostly forgotten.

In the book Beaty discusses the six million briefly and incredulously and sees it as Zionist propaganda. In my opinion he's not only notable for being a "proto-revisionist" but also one who, like Oliver, had access to top secret military intel throughout the war.

https://www.unz.com/book/john_beaty__the-iron-curtain-over-america/#p_7_100

https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/taro/smu/00034/smu-00034.html

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Re: Revilo P. Oliver on the Holocaust

Postby Hektor » 2 months 2 days ago (Wed Sep 30, 2020 8:03 pm)

Archie wrote:Ron Unz mentioned Beaty in several of his American Pravda articles. That's where I heard about him. Beaty had a PhD in philosophy from Columbia and was a professor of English at SMU for a long time. From 1941-1947 he served as an intelligence officer in Washington DC, reaching the rank of Colonel. He prepared daily G-2 reports for officials in Washington. In 1951 he wrote a book called The Iron Curtain Over America, an anti-Communist book that was quite popular among conservatives at the time. It went through (if I recall correctly) something like 17 printings although it was later mostly forgotten.

In the book Beaty discusses the six million briefly and incredulously and sees it as Zionist propaganda. In my opinion he's not only notable for being a "proto-revisionist" but also one who, like Oliver, had access to top secret military intel throughout the war.

https://www.unz.com/book/john_beaty__the-iron-curtain-over-america/#p_7_100

https://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/taro/smu/00034/smu-00034.html


Indeed interesting to know what people that were close to higher-ups of intelligence services knew and thought on the subject. I've yet to see an internal report prepared for higher ups that stipulates that there were industrial scale gassings happening in Auschwitz. And that this was confirmed by several sources that didn't have a dog in that fight, there.

What I recall is the Vrba-Wetzler report, which is obviously fraudulent and done by people with another agenda then establishing true conditions or events at that place. It seems there wasn't a buy in into the Extermination narrative until later in WW2. My educated guess would be that this was done, because they needed a supporting myth, a narrative if you want, they could use to justify in the minds of the gullible masses the manner and extent that war was conducted.
Remember, the initial narrative of Adolf Hitler as a conqueror of the world won't hold up to scrutiny. You'd have to poison the well in the most vicious way as to prevent an objective investigation into this. The destruction caused by genocidal bombing and the demand for "unconditional surrender" (something none of the Allied Nations would have agreed to neither) was all too obvious and was in need to justification, if discussed in a more open fashion. The Communist were also in need of a distraction from their own atrocious behaviour.

So there would have been a consensus that a "noble lie" was needed and what would have been more useful then to frame "the Nazis" with an extermination program in concentration camps. I mean the existence of concentration camps and that Jews were housed in them, was not really in dispute. Also that there was a degree of mortality in the camps. The dispute is about the purpose and goal of those camps and internment as well as what the conditions were initially and what lead to a worsening of those conditions with mortality as an aftermath.

The writings of John Beaty seem to be worthwhile investigating.

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Re: Revilo P. Oliver on the Holocaust

Postby Archie » 1 month 2 weeks ago (Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:48 pm)

Last week Ron Unz published a very long article about racial topics and he again mentions Oliver.
https://www.unz.com/runz/white-racialism-in-america-then-and-now/
I already noted that he worked in military intelligence during the war but Ron further specifies here that Oliver worked in cryptology/code-breaking. Seeing as Oliver was a language expert, it makes sense he would be assigned to that area. It also explains how he got the skinny on Pearl Harbor.

Here are a few more excerpts of some of his Holocaust commentary. Again, he never really gave the topic any lengthy treatment, but he's very firmly of the opinion that it was a complete hoax. He's surprisingly based for an academic.

The Jews are using every resource from open terrorism to their control of all the media of communication to force their Aryan cattle to believe their great hoax. And whenever there are any indications that White Americans might be beginning to use their brains, the word goes out to the media of communication, “The swine are becoming restless. Man the pumps and squirt more sludge in the faces of the dumb brutes.” And well-coached “survivors” appear from the woodwork to tell everyone how they saw their dear poppas and mamas and their so sweet Schwesterlein and all their so innocent uncles and aunts and dear little cousins stuffed into the ovens by the horrid Nazis, who, unaccountably, overlooked the Sheeny who “survived” and is now wailing in public. And there are even Germans so despicable that they perform for the Jews on well-paid lecture-circuits and beat their breasts on the stage as they confess to collective guilt for having killed all of the six million Jews who are now in the United States and paying them to lie to the stupid goyim. In Canada, the courts are already being used to teach Aryan curs that they must not presume to have thoughts that do not bear the Kosher seal of approval, and pseudo-legal terrorism is already well under way in the United States. Most Americans have the stinking swill squirted in their faces every day, and it is not remarkable that they believe at least some part of what they are not only told but are shown in motion pictures produced with all the technical expertise of Hollywood.

https://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/1985/11/new-hoaxes-for-old/

MANY READERS of Professor Arthur Butz’s incisive demolition of the Jews’ filthy Holohoax, The Hoax of The Twentieth Century, have asked the question that the author himself asked: “Why was it necessary for a Professor of Electrical Engineering to do the work that should have been done by professional historians?” Why, in a country which has, in almost every town and in many villages, one or more colleges or universities, each of which is adorned with a crew of Professors of History, did no one of these thousands of learned professionals have a sufficient respect for historical truth to investigate and expose the arrant hoax, called the “Holocaust,” that Jews use to extort billions of dollars from Germany, the United States, Britain, and almost every nation of the White world? Why did all of the thousands of Professors of History, many of whom professionally concern themselves with modern history, disgrace themselves by countenancing, and many make themselves infamous by endorsing, a Big Lie that was in itself patently preposterous by all the laws of historical criticism?

https://www.revilo-oliver.com/news/1985/09/academic-prostitution/

Although they are few in number, the Aryans who feel real hatred disturb the complacency of some Jews, even in this country, where their increasingly open control seems absolute. A rabbi, for example, in his column in the Chicago Sun-Times , while not disavowing the great Jewish hoax about the “six million” who were supposedly exterminated by the Germans (and then crawled into the United States), quite clearly warned his compatriots that their clamors about a “holocaust” might give ideas to the goyim and result in the operation of real gas-chambers and in a real purge, if the Aryans got out of control in the United States. The rabbi is probably an alarmist, but it is true that the ever more blatant arrogance and terrorism of the Jews is arousing hatred in their serfs. It may have been indiscreet of them to erect a monumental “menorah,” thirty feet high, in front of the American White House as a symbol of their ownership at the very time that they deny to the cringing Americans (who once had a country of their own) the right to display a Christmas tree on public property. And instead of quietly abandoning the absurd hoax about the “six million,” which was devised to pep up the Aryan cattle they stampeded into Europe in 1941, and which has netted them many billions of dollars from the swindled Germans and much more from the rest of the world, they are demanding that the lie be forcibly injected into the mind of every American child. That is certain to increase resentment, as is, for example, their recent attempt to murder a man in Chicago, which, when he was merely grievously injured, they explained by claiming they had mistaken him for a man they intended to murder, it being assumed that since the victim was merely an Aryan dog, that explanation should be sufficient comfort for the other dogs. Open terrorism, whether violent or pseudo-legal, arouses in some Americans an indignant perception of their formerly concealed servitude. I am reliably informed that a young man in the northeastern (and most corrupted) part of the United States recently read Professor Arthur Butz’s definitive expose of the “six million” hoax and promptly resigned his membership in one of our minuscule National Socialist organizations on the grounds that Professor Butz had convinced him that Hitler not only did not kill six million Jews, but did not even try.

https://archive.org/details/TheJewishStrategyReviloOliver/page/n11/mode/2up


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