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Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 6 months ago (Fri May 05, 2017 8:23 pm)

The Volokh Conspiracy / Opinion / Washington Post
By Eugene Volokh April 24, 2017

Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel barred from moving to the U.S., though his wife is an American citizen

Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel apparently wanted to move to the United States from Germany. (I say apparently because the decision on which I’m reporting, just posted on Westlaw but decided March 31 by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security Administrative Appeals Office, referred only to one E.C.Z., but both the initials and the facts described in the decision fit Zundel and likely no one else.) He would normally get an immigrant visa, because his wife of 16 years — who is about 80 years old — is a U.S. citizen. But he was classified as inadmissible because he has been convicted of foreign crimes for which the sentence was five years or more. [...] The office concluded...:
The negative factors in the Applicant’s case include his long history of inciting racial, ethnic, and religious hatred. The record shows that the Applicant is a historical revisionist and denier of the Holocaust, distributing writings, books, tapes, videos, and broadcasts to promote his views. The record indicates further that these publications agitated for aggressive behavior against Jews. Furthermore, the Applicant has been a leader in these activities for decades and has shown no regret or remorse for his actions. Thus, we find that the negative factors in the Applicant’s case outweigh the positive such that a favorable exercise of discretion is not warranted.

The decision suggests that Zundel might have had a legal right under existing law to immigrate after all (even if that right could constitutionally be taken away by a change in the law) — and that DHS’s Administrative Appeals Office might not fully understand American First Amendment law. The office stated,
A foreign conviction can be the basis for a finding of inadmissibility only where the conviction is “for conduct which is deemed criminal by United States standards.” Matter of Ramirez-Rivero, 18 I&N Dec. 135, 137 (BIA 1981).

Comment 1: If the U.S. now bans Holocaust revisionists from entry, is this a first step towards legal enforcement of Holocaust Belief, as in Germany and France, etc., with jail terms for unrepentant skeptics? As the article states, there is an insinuation that something about what Zundel has done is illegal under U.S. law.

Comment 2: President Trump's limited, six-country immigration ban order, we will remember, floundered and failed quickly, but here we have Zundel, whose wife is a U.S. citizen(!), successfully banned. I think I missed the coverage of all the protests there must have been on this blatant violation of our rights to free speech! Oh, wait...

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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 6 months ago (Sat May 06, 2017 9:09 am)

cold beer wrote:I'm going to sound clueless, bring me up to speed, where is Zundel now?

He must be stuck in Germany, under a tight ban on his freedom of speech owing to the possibility of another prison sentence (like they did to Horst Mahler, who has recently fled the country under threat of another prison term for Holocaust Blasphemy).

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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby k0nsl » 2 years 6 months ago (Sat May 06, 2017 10:59 am)

Their conclusion is lauded with some really perverted ‘svart Humor’ as we call it in Scandinavia (dark humour);

« The record indicates further that these publications agitated for aggressive behavior against Jews. »

They write that about Zündel, the pacifist! That man has been the victim of insanely aggressive attacks; all performed by jews or with jewish involvement.

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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 6 months ago (Sat May 06, 2017 8:50 pm)

k0nsl wrote:Their conclusion is lauded with some really perverted ‘svart Humor’ as we call it in Scandinavia (dark humour)l

You're right that the whole Zundel Ban of 2017, as a legal document, seems surreal.

Like the statement that Zundel "is a historical revisionist," as if that itself is dangerous and criminal...

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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Mortimer » 2 years 6 months ago (Sat May 06, 2017 9:11 pm)

Ernst Zundel is the victim of violence including arson and a pipe bomb. He also made the following statement -
"The facts are: My material, my ideas, my television and radio appearances do not create "anti semitic" incidents, because they are not anti semitic. My material is attempting to counter anti German hate mongering in the media, in films and in text books. There is a simple solution to this problem: Stop telling untruths, half truths and outright lies about Germans and their role in history and I won't have to counter with uncomfortable and unpopular truths. Simple! Remember: A lie does not become a truth just because it has been repeated millions of times!"
The MSM and corrupt politicians always accuse him of being a hatemonger when he is fighting hate.
http://www.zundelsite.org/archive/engli ... ron08.html
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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 6 months ago (Sun May 07, 2017 2:18 pm)

Flashback to February 2005:

Germany ready to pounce on Zündel (via David Irving)
Israel, Friday, February 25, 2005

In a searing 64-page ruling yesterday, Mr. Justice Pierre Blais labelled Mr. Zündel a racist hypocrite who has nurtured a pacifist image to conceal his support of right-wing extremism and his global propagation of anti-Semitic material. "Mr. Zündel seems to thrive in this troubled sea, surrounded by ambiguity and hypocrisy," the judge said. "Mr. Zündel's activities are not only a threat to Canada's national security, but also a threat to the international community of nations."

No appeal is possible under the controversial national security certificate procedure, meaning Mr. Zündel could be on a plane to his native Germany at any time.

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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Sannhet » 2 years 6 months ago (Sun May 07, 2017 2:34 pm)

Zündel Life Timeline (Corrections or important additions welcome)

  • 1939, born in Germany
  • 1958, emigrates to Canada, he says because his pacifism compelled him to do so. He was otherwise obliged to serve in the Bundeswehr.
  • 1959, marries a French-Canadian
  • [1958 to 2000, Zundel lives in Canada (Toronto and Montreal)]
  • 1966, Canada rejects Zundel's application for citizenship, reasons unknown
  • Late 1970s, as the Holocaust Narrative is solidifying as it exists today (and as the term 'holocaust' first came to gain its capital letter, confirmable by Google Ngram tool), Zundel cautiously enters the world of Holocaust Revisionism after being given early material questioning the gas chambers
  • 1980s, Zundel at center of worldwide Holocaust Trial(s)
  • 1994, Canada again rejects Zundel application for citizenship, this time for Holocaust Denial
  • Late 1990s, more Hate Crime trials against Zundel, in Canada, are underway
  • 2000, Marries Ingrid Rimland, a Heimatvertiebene German from eastern Europe, by 2000 a U.S. citizen resident of Tennessee.
  • [2000 to 2003, Zundel lives in Tennessee, USA]
  • 2003, U.S. authorities deport Zundel to Israel Canada. More Hate Crime trials begins and moves to deport Zundel to Germany for a lengthy prison term for Holocaust Revisionism.
  • 2005, March 1st, Canada deports Zundel to Germany. He is imprisoned for Holocaust Revisionism for five years.
  • 2010, Zundel released from prison, and has lived since then under a right free speech ban.
  • 2016-2017, Zundel applies for right to emigrate to the U.S. to rejoin his wife; is banned as a national security threat and promoter of "aggressive behavior against Jews."

Ever since cautiously entering the world of Holocaust Skepticism and then Revisionism, forty years ago, Zundel has never 'recanted.' At any time since the 1980s, there would have been a great incentive to do so, but, like Luther at the Diet of Worms in 1521, he stood fast and refused to cave in to pressure from above. (Cf. Eric Hunt).

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Re: Ernst Zundel has been banned from the USA (April 2017) for 'showing no regret for Holocaust denial'

Postby Dresden » 2 years 6 months ago (Sun May 07, 2017 3:43 pm)

"Zündel Life Timeline (Corrections or important additions welcome)"

Ernst Zündel

http://codoh.com/library/categories/1130/

Ernst Zündel was born on April 24, 1939, in a small town in the Black Forest region of southwestern Germany. He emigrated to Canada at the age of 19, where he soon married and became the father of two sons. His career as a graphic artist was successful, with his work appearing, for example, on the front cover of Canada’s national news magazine, Maclean’s.

Setting aside his thriving career, he dedicated himself to the great task, as he saw it, of redeeming the sullied reputation of his fellow Germans. Through his Samisdat publishing house he distributed worldwide a prodigious quantity of books, booklets, leaflets, newsletters, and audio and video cassettes. Simon Wiesenthal, the well-known “Nazi hunter,” called Zündel the world’s number one distributor of allegedly dangerous literature and cassettes.

Zündel is perhaps best known for his central role in the “Holocaust Trials” of 1985 and 1988. He was brought to court in Toronto on a charge of “publishing false news,” and specifically for publishing a reprint edition of a booklet entitled Did Six Million Really Die?

Zündel’s two lengthy trials – the 1985 trial lasted two months, and the 1988 trial lasted four months – have been the closest thing anywhere to full scale debates on the Holocaust issue. For the first time ever, “Holocaust survivors” and Holocaust historians were closely and critically questioned under oath about their claims and views.

To wage the legal battle that was forced upon him, he brought together an impressive international team of revisionist scholars, legal specialists, researchers, and many others. From numerous libraries and archives in North America and Europe, this group assembled at “Zündelhaus” one of the most impressive collections of evidence anywhere on this chapter of history.

Among those who testified on Zündel’s behalf in the trials were Robert Faurisson, David Irving, Mark Weber, William Lindsey, Udo Walendy, and Bradley Smith. As a result of the two trials, an enormous quantity of compelling evidence refuting the familiar Holocaust extermination story was presented to the court and thereby was made part of the permanent public record. Perhaps the most important of this evidence was the historic testimony of American gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter about his on-site forensic examination of the alleged extermination gas chambers in Poland.

Zündel was found guilty in the 1985 trial, but the verdict was set aside by the provincial appeals court. It ruled that the judge in that trial had, among other things, given improper instructions to the jury, and had improperly excluded defense evidence. In May 1988, at the conclusion of the second Zündel trial, the jury declared him guilty. A few days later, he was sentenced to nine months imprisonment.

On appeal, Canada’s Supreme Court threw out the conviction, declaring on August 27, 1992, that the archaic “false news” law under which he had been convicted was a violation of the country’s Charter of Rights.
This was not only a personal vindication by Canada’s highest court; Ernst Zündel secured an important victory for the rights of all Canadians.

Zündel’s next great legal battle was fought out before the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal in Toronto on charges, instigated by Jewish groups, of promoting “hatred or contempt” against Jews through the “Zündelsite” Internet web site (http://www.Zündelsite.org), operated by Ingrid Rimland from the United States. In this legal action, as the Tribunal’s presiding Commissioner declared, the truth or validity of the supposedly “hateful” items was not a consideration. (Ultimately the Tribunal declared the “Zündelsite” to be unlawful, but because the site is based in the US, the ruling is unenforceable.)

During the 42 years he lived in Canada, Ernst Zündel was never convicted of a crime. He was, however, repeatedly a victim of violence and hate. He survived three assassination attempts, including by arson and pipe bomb. He’s also endured years of legal harassment and repeated jailings.

After more than four decades in Canada, including a failed effort to acquire Canadian citizenship, he moved to the United States, where in January 2000 he married Ingrid Rimland.

His wife, a gifted writer and noted author in her own right, was born in an ethnic German Mennonite community in Ukraine. As a child she and her family were victims of Soviet rule and the ravages of World War II. After the war she lived for a time in Paraguay and Canada, and then for years in California. Ingrid Rimland holds a doctoral degree in education, and is a naturalized US citizen.

On February 5, 2003, Ernst Zündel was arrested at their quiet home in the mountain region of eastern Tennessee. He was seized because he had missed an interview date with US immigration authorities, even though he had entered the US legally, was married to an American citizen, had no criminal record, and was acting diligently, and in full accord with the law, to secure status as a permanent legal resident.

After being held for two weeks, he was deported to Canada. For two years – from mid-February 2003 to March 1, 2005 – he was held in solitary confinement in the Toronto West Detention Centre, on the pretext that he is a threat to national security.

His arrest and detention generated wide media attention. A few Canadian newspapers, including Toronto’s prestigious Globe and Mail, and several independent analysts, acknowledged the injustice of his incarceration on an empty pretext.

Among those who protested Zündel’s unjust treatment was Bill Dunphy, a veteran investigative journalist and editor for the daily Hamilton Spectator. He spent six years probing Canada’s “white supremacist” movement, and got to know Zündel personally.

The Canadian Association for Free Expression (CAFE), a free speech advocacy group, fought for Zündel’s release. “Mr. Zündel is quite literally a political prisoner,” said CAFE director Paul Fromm, who also served as Zündel’s legal representative in his detention hearings. “He is being held in solitary confinement solely for the non-violent expression of his political views.”

The allegation that Zündel might be a threat to national security “is mischievous nonsense,” said Fromm. “Zündel has been politically active in Canada for 40 years. He’s a public figure. His writings and speeches are available on-line. He’s been investigated for years by the police. He’s an open book. Zündel has never advocated or practiced violence, nor have his followers,” Fromm added. “He’s a pacifist and a publisher.”

On March 1, 2005, Zündel was deported to Germany, just as Jewish groups had been demanding. He was formally charged with inciting “hatred” by having written or distributed texts that “approve, deny or play down” genocidal actions carried out by Germany’s wartime regime, and which “denigrate the memory of the [Jewish] dead.”

Zündel’s 16 months trial concluded on February 15, 2007, when a court in Mannheim sentenced him to five years imprisonment for the crime of “popular incitement” under Germany’s notorious “Holocaust denial” statute. The 14 specific violations cited by the court included postings on the US-based “Zündelsite” website. The court thus upheld claims by German authorities to punish individuals for writings that are legal in the country where they are published. Jewish groups quickly, and predictably, expressed approval of the verdict.

Zündel was held in Mannheim prison for precisely five years When he was released on Monday morning, March 1, 2010, friends and well-wishers were waiting outside the prison entrance to greet him. He currently lives quietly in his parental home in Swabia, separated from his U.S. wife.
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