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Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby newpaths » 4 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Jul 10, 2017 4:37 pm)

Does anyone here have some good revisionist sources on anti-German attitudes, propaganda, or agitation before WWII actually began? I have found a copy of "Germany Must Perish" and am interested in sources documenting similar attitudes, like this one:
http://www.angelfire.com/dawn666blacksu ... gress.html

Are there any other materials about this (books, documentaries, news articles, etc.) that you've found helpful? Thank you in advance.



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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby hermod » 4 months 1 week ago (Mon Jul 10, 2017 8:05 pm)

From the top of my head, here is information you'll probably find interesting.

- Dealing in Hate: The development of anti-German propaganda, By Dr. Michael F. Connors (http://ihr.org/books/connors/dealinginhate.shtml)

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https://www.amazon.com/Dealing-Hate-Dev ... 1588402371

- The Myth of German Villainy, By Benton L. Bradberry

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https://www.amazon.com/Myth-German-Vill ... 1477231838
"But, however the world pretends to divide itself, there are ony two divisions in the world to-day - human beings and Germans. – Rudyard Kipling, The Morning Post (London), June 22, 1915

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby Mortimer » 4 months 1 week ago (Mon Jul 10, 2017 9:47 pm)

A worldwide boycott of German goods was organised by Jewish organisations. There is a thread on this in the WW2 forum -
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=11174

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby HeiligeSturm » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jul 11, 2017 4:39 am)

Try to google for anti-German propaganda and you'll find it started before World War One.
There was "crucified Canadians" etc. and babies ripped in half.
Some examples below.
Germans and their leader were literally demonized in both wars.

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And for the reading I recommend
Falsehood in Wartime by Arthur Ponsonby
https://archive.org/details/16FalsehoodInWartime
Carol Stulberg: Were you ever in the gas chamber? Did you see the gas chamber?
Morris Venezia: Of course I was every day over there.
Carol Stulberg: Can you describe to us what it looked like?
Morris Venezia: It’s nothing to describe

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby k0nsl » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:07 am)

A classic from Ernst Zündel on the topic of anti-German propaganda:

Part 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM-bjvIX-o8

Part 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmedmRLk1Ak

Part 3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztAk7Xg1Llo

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby gandalfssocks » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:37 am)

Try this?

A sombre Lloyd George noted in 1920: “The more one reads memoirs and books written in the various countries of what happened before August 1, 1914, the more one realises that no one at the head of affairs quite meant war at that stage. It was something into which they glided, or rather staggered and stumbled, perhaps through folly, and a discussion, I have no doubt, would have averted it.”

This represents quite a shift from his definite blame on Germany in his wartime statements.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/viewpoints ... 83223.html

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby Hektor » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:46 pm)

newpaths wrote:Does anyone here have some good revisionist sources on anti-German attitudes, propaganda, or agitation before WWII actually began? I have found a copy of "Germany Must Perish" and am interested in sources documenting similar attitudes, like this one:
http://www.angelfire.com/dawn666blacksu ... gress.html

Are there any other materials about this (books, documentaries, news articles, etc.) that you've found helpful? Thank you in advance.


Not exactly Revisionist sources, but the only thing that is even better: contemporary originals:
https://archive.org/details/MaxSchelerD ... chenhasses
https://archive.org/details/DerPapierneFeind1918

Those are from the world war one era. decades before world war two and the alleged Holocaust.
So mind you, this was coming a long way. I'd have to go through the sources again what they see as the reason for the irrational hate against Germany and the Germans. I'd guess that one issue was Germany's leadership in the arts and sciences and of course its growing industries others had (and found difficult) to compete with.

Marxism and Jewish hostility for gentiles and christianity may also have played a role.

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby Lothario » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:50 pm)

Anti-German attitudes in Britain from before the first World War: http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/4/Werner373-385.html
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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby Moderator » 4 months 1 week ago (Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:28 pm)

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby Hektor » 4 months 1 week ago (Sun Jul 16, 2017 4:55 am)

Lothario wrote:Anti-German attitudes in Britain from before the first World War: http://www.vho.org/tr/2003/4/Werner373-385.html


"The German Danger" is a recurring theme -
Prior to World War One: https://archive.org/details/germandanger00kenngoog
Even earlier: https://archive.org/details/germandangerwork00daws (This one appears to be a bit more sociological analytical).

At the end of WW1 : https://archive.org/details/outwitting_ ... 4_librivox Mind the use of derogatory epithets.

There is a whole spectrum of that kind of literature, it seems.

And then you got it from official side publications like this one in 1936:
https://archive.org/details/BritishCabi ... anuary1936

I haven't fact check this yet in every detail. But some seems to be the method of selecting factoids and then simply creating an impression that is very different than it would be, if the reader had all the facts available. Given that it is from 1936 it should be a good summary of attitudes though.

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Re: Anti-German attitude before WWII

Postby gandalfssocks » 4 months 1 week ago (Sun Jul 16, 2017 10:58 am)

This is very interesting in as much as was said at the time, Germany was becoming an economic threat to the Rhodes/Milner group who were exercising power from behind the scenes.

The Inevitable War

https://archive.org/stream/inevitablewar00delagoog#page/n20/mode/2up


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