Atigun wrote:For our guests, it should be noted that the "extermination area" of Treblinka was about 5 hectares or ~10 acres. No exterminationist has ever been able to explain how the ~750,000 Jews were buried in that small area given the constraints of the type of equipment that was supposedly used.
The number buried in the extermination area was not necessarily 750,000, as "only" 713,555 were deported to Treblinka until the end of 1942 (i.e. the period when burial as opposed to cremation was the camp's main body disposal method), according to the Höfle Telegram. Moreover many of these deportees died en route and were buried outside
the extermination area. The same applies to those who were those shot at the "Lazarett".
The number of people buried in the extermination sector that I calculated considering the above, assuming that the 713,555 mentioned by Höfle do not include about 8,000 deportees from Theresienstadt in 1942, and making some allowance for the remote possibility, claimed by Mattogno, that arrivals in early 1943 were buried instead of being directly cremated, is 726,441.
The size of the extermination area (about 40,500 m² or 41,390 m² according to calculations by, respectively, Sergey Romanov and Peter Laponder; Yitzhak Arad estimated about 50,000 m² as you do) was more than sufficient to accomodate the required area of mass graves. Considering Alex Bay's corpse density calculation/estimate in his "Reconstruction of Treblinka", i.e. 8,502 cubic meters for 100,000 corpses, I calculated that the burial of 726,441 corpses in Treblinka’s extermination sector would have required a volume of ca. 61,762 mᶟ and an area of ca. 9.081 m². This would correspond to 21.9 % - 22.4 % of the extermination sector’s total area and little more than half of the 1.8 ha area called the "area of cremation" in a map pertaining to postwar Polish crime site investigations.
That's without taking into account the probable "recovery" of mass grave space as the corpses released most of their liquid (water makes up something like 60 % of a human body's volume) as leachate into the soil and their volume shrank according, leading to a "sinking" of the mass grave and making it possible to add further corpses.
So there was no bottleneck as concerns the area and volume available for burying corpses.
Are the available excavators (two, possibly three) supposed to have been unable to make sufficiently large mass graves with the period in question, 22 July to 31 December 1942?
The Menck excavators used at Treblinka had a clamshell load of 0.75 to 0.8 cubic meters. A Menck M60 machine shown in a Youtube video takes about 45 seconds for one clamshell movement from the truck to the soil it excavates and back to the truck dropping the soil. Let's make that 60 seconds for good measure. The clamshell holds 0.75 cubic meters of soil according to information below the video, and the construction pit from which the excavator is extracting the soil is 15 meters deep, which is much deeper than the Treblinka pits were assumed to be according to postwar excavations (which found human remains to a depth of 7.5 meters), and deeper than even the highest estimates by Treblinka eyewitnesses IIRC.
Assuming a workday of only 12 hours, the amount excavated would be 540 cubic meters per day. At that rate a single excavator could have dug 61,762 mᶟ of mass grave space within 114 days, more than sufficient time especially if one assumes that digging the pits started before the camp started operating on 22 July 1942. With two excavators on the job excavation time would have been just 57 days.
So there was no bottleneck here either.
You have argued that the amount of removed soil would be a problem. I have calculated that, assuming piles of excavated soil 6 meters high (Youtube videos showing Menck excavators and Kurt Franz's photos taken at Treblinka suggest that a sand-pile height of 6 meters was possible) and 10 meters wide, the length of the piles would be less than 1,900 meters, and the area covered by these piles would be about 19,000 square meters, i.e. less than half the extermination sector's area.
Another way of calculating the area covered by excavated soil, assuming a dilation factor of 1.25, would be the following:
(i) Volume of excavated soil: 61,762 mᶟ * 1.25 = 77,202.50 mᶟ
(ii) Height of excavated soil: 6 m
(iii) Area covered by excavated soil: 77,202.50 ÷ 6 = 12,867.08 m²
But let's assume the higher area (19,000 m²), and that a significant part of the excavated sand would have to be moved elsewhere.
Would this be a problem?
If excavators could be brought into the extermination sector then so could trucks, and trucks could remove much of the excavated soil to the nearby Treblinka gravel quarry. Some of the excavated soil may have been shipped from there by train together with gravel from the quarry.
So there's no bottleneck here either.
Atigun wrote:The extermination area included both the old and the new gas chambers, the magic Jew cremation grill, the prisoner barracks and the lazarett. Those are not the claims of the revisionists but is what is said by the true believers. The question becomes, are you gullible enough to believe such nonsense?
The "Lazarett", as mentioned before, was outside the extermination sector.
The mass graves occupied just about 22 % of that sector’s area, see above.
The cremation grates (which were no more "magic" than the grate or grates on which air raid victims were burned after the Dresden bombing on 13-15 February 1945, and very similar in construction) would have occupied an area of just 360 m², assuming that there were six of them and each had an area of about 60 m² (30 meters long, two meters wide).
This means that, even assuming that 19,000 square meters of soil were left inside the extermination sector (which need not have been the case, see above), and that the extermination sector's area was only about 40,500 m², there would still be about 12,000 square meters left for the gas chamber building(s), the prisoner barracks, and movement inside the area.