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Help Me Get Thjs Right

Postby Hegwood » 8 months 4 days ago (Tue May 15, 2018 10:09 pm)

I want to make sure I have this right.
Is the following an accurate brief description of the holocaust story? If my understanding of some part of the story is in error I want to know. Is this the best "they" can do?
If it is correct, it is hard to believe that people are in prison for not believing this story. Have the few simple features of the story presented below ever been used in court as a defense against holocaust denial? Are the judges and prosecutors ever put on the spot and told exactly what they must believe? Has it ever been pointed out to them that the evil perpetuators of the holocaust were capable of using magic or working miracles? Has a defendant every recanted and said "all right, all right, I don't want to go to jail. I recant, I believe, I believe in magic, I believe in miracles."

Also, if correct, it is equally hard to believe that something similar to this brief description is not widely disseminated by revisionists.

On that last note, I do not claim pride of authorship. It is not my story, I would not and could not write such a stupid story. And as I am not a particularly good writer my transcription of it could certainly be improved. Any grammatical and literary corrections are welcome. Even a complete rewrite would be welcome as long as it doesn't try to hide the details that make it a fairytale.

The following is a brief description of the Holocaust. It is the basic Holocaust story. It is not Holocaust denial; it is not revisionism. Some parts of the story seem impossible, they cannot be explained by natural law. Some of these are addressed under Additional Comments where they are accepted as paranormal events or results of some form of Devine intervention.

What Is the Holocaust?
The Holocaust is the allegation that during World War II the National Socialist government of Germany tried to kill everyone who they identified as a Jew. It is further claimed that this attempted genocide of Jews resulted in the death of 6,000,000 of their number.
When, where, and how did this happen? When, where, and how were 6,000,000 people murdered? This seems to be the place to start in understanding the Holocaust. Yet Holocaust education organizations such as the United States Holocaust Memorial and Museum (USHMM) and Israel's Yad Vashem do not readily provide such information. The only such accounting of victims that I am aware of is from Raul Hilberg’s The Destruction of the European Jews. Table B-1, page 1219, of the 1985 edition of that work, is a summary of Holocaust deaths by camp or specific action. Five major groupings account for well over ninety percent of the victims. These categories are the Action Reinhardt killing centers, Einsatzgruppen executions, Auschwitz gas chambers, general deprivation in ghettos, and the Chelmno and Majdanek camps in Poland. I've added "All other" to account for camps or incidents with smaller numbers of victims. The groupings are:

Action Reinhardt (Treblinka, Belsec, Sobibor camps) - 1,500,000 gassing victims
Einsatzgruppen, executions in towns and villages - 1,300,000 firing squad victims
Auschwitz, mostly in gas chambers - 1,000,000 mostly gassing victims
Ghettorization&Occupation - 800,000 general deprivation victims
Kulmhof/Chelmno and Lublin/Majdanek - 200,000 primarily gassing victims
All other, including the well known camps in Germany - 300,000 of various causes
Total 5,100,000

The above total is short of the 6,000,000 but that doesn't detract from the magnitude of the crime and should not be an issue.
Further, the foregoing numbers should not be subjected to scrutiny for accuracy. The numbers are just estimates. Despite some claims that the Holocaust is well documented the opposite is true. Very little, in truth an insignificant amount, is documented. None of the executions whether by Einsatzgruppen, in gas chambers, or in the ghettos are clearly enumerated. There are no lists of victims. There is no count of the dead not even a record of the number of times executions were carried out. The few deaths that are clearly documented are from disease or other natural causes plus a few executions for disciplinary reasons.

Although this post is purposefully brief a little additional information is necessary to fill out answers to the "when, where, and how". Following are some of these details for the five major categories, or sub-stories if you will.

Action Reinhardt Camps
Action Reinhardt with 1,500,000 victims is the largest of the above categories. These victims were murdered in the death camps of Treblinka, Belzec, and Sobibor. Hilberg puts the respective deaths at 750,000, 550,000, and 200,000. Combined this is the most deadly Holocaust action. These three camps were located in what is today eastern Poland, not far from the current borders with Belarus and Ukraine. They began operation in March 1942 and were closed in the fall of 1943. These were pure extermination camps. Only prisoners needed to help run the camps were allowed to live. All others were executed immediately upon arrival. What is known about the operation of these camps is largely based on the reports of two Jews who claimed to be members of the Jewish forced laborers at Treblinka -Yankel Wiernik and Chil Rajchman.
In brief the operation that they describe was: Jews arrived in trains of twenty or more carloads, disembarked and were stripped of all possessions. The men were then separated from the women and children. Both groups were told to remove all clothes to take a shower. Instead they were then forced into a building where they were killed by a poisonous gas. Wiernik said it was diesel engine exhaust gas but Rajchman wasn’t sure. They were all dead within minutes and initially they were buried in large mass graves. In order to eliminate all evidence of this massive crime the later victims were cremated and the previously buried corpses were exhumed and also cremated. Since there were no crematory facilities at any of the Action Reinhardt camps open air cremation was used. The following is part of Rajchman’s description of the cremations:

He [the “cremation expert”] had laid out more than thirty meters of railway gauge. Right on top of the ground a pair of concrete foundations were cast, both with a height of approximately 50 centimeters. ... On top of the foundations six railway rails were placed, that was all. The expert ordered us to put women, particularly fat women, on the first layer on the roast, face down. The second layer could consist of whatever was brought – men, women or children – and so on, layer upon layer like a pyramid, up to a height of two meter."
"... Then the "expert" ordered us to lay dry branches under the roast and to light them. Within a few minutes the fire would take so it was difficult to approach the crematorium from as far as fifty meters away.”

Wiernik provides a similar description of the cremation. His words were "The workers piled the corpses on the grate and set them on fire." and “It turned out that bodies of women burned more easily than those of men. Accordingly, the bodies of women were used for kindling the fires.” The cremations resulted in only ashes leaving no recognizable human remains as evidence of the massive crime.

According to Holocaust historians, Belzec and Sobibor were operated the same way. There are very limited eye witness accounts of the operation of these camps. Apparently, the small number and lack of consistency in these accounts leads Holocaust scholars to the conclusion they were operated in the same manner as Treblinka. The United States Holocaust Museum and Memorial (USHMM) descriptions of operation of the three camps are brief but are nearly identical.

The next largest category is the execution by firing squad - 1,300,000 victims. After Germany invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941 special squads called Einsatzgruppen -Operation Groups- rounded up Jews in towns and cities marched them to the outskirts of town executed them and buried them in mass graves. Executions were carried out in groups of various sizes from a few individuals to groups of dozens, hundreds , or even thousands.
The best known execution of this type occurred at Babi Yar, a ravine on the outskirts of Kiev, Ukraine, where 33,000 of the city’s Jewish residents were executed and buried.
There are no mass graves to be examined. In June 1942 Himmler ordered all evidence of the Einsatzgruppen executions destroyed. It is claimed that all bodies were exhumed and burned in a manner similar to the Treblinka cremations leaving absolutely no physical evidence that these million plus murder victims ever existed, not even in Babi Yar whose location is exactly known has any evidence of these murders ever been discovered.

Auschwitz, located in what is now southern Poland, was the largest of the German concentration camps. It actually consisted of three camps - Auschwitz I, Auschwitz II (Birkenau), and Auschwitz III (Monowitz). Auschwitz II (Birkenau) was by far the largest of the three. It had the barracks that housed the majority of the inmates and also the four large crematoria/gas chambers.
Auschwitz is almost synonymous with the Holocaust. However, Hilberg found it was only the third most deadly of the major groupings. Here approximately 1,000,000 Jews were murdered in gas chambers between September 1941 and November 1944.
Despite claims of efficient mass murder methods, the so-called “machinery of death” was rather crude. Jews to be gassed were herded into rooms actually built as morgues - “leichenkellar” in German. These rooms had no plumbing thru which the poison gas was introduced. Specifically, they did not have the shower heads, fake or otherwise, often mentioned by Holocaust survivors. Instead, Zyclon B pellets were poured into the packed rooms through holes in the roofs or through windows. Hydrogen cyanide released from the pellets killed all occupants within minutes. Sondercommando workers entered the chambers immediately and carried the bodies to the crematoria located in the same building.
As previously noted there are absolutely no records of the exterminations at Auschwitz. Those deemed useful for labor were selected for registration in the camp and their lives and activities are well documented. All others were sent to the gas chambers. There is no indication that they were even counted. There is not even a record of how often the makeshift chambers were used.

Ghettorization & Occupation
Hilberg attributes 800,000 holocaust deaths to general deprivation primarily in ghettos established for Jews in all larger cities in Eastern Europe. Also, certain Jews from Germany proper were deported to Theresienstadt, a ghetto in the what is now the Czech Republic.
Ghettos existed pretty much from the beginning of German occupation until their retreat. Deaths resulted from disease caused by crowded conditions and general deprivation.

Kulmhof/Chelmno and Lublin/Majdanek
These two camps were similar to the Action Reinhardt camps. Majdanek comes up often in the story but I know little about it. The same is true for the less often mentioned Chelmo. Since Hilberg claims 200,000 were killed in them but the USHMM has a death total of 600,000, I really don't know what is say about them.

All Others
The concentration camps in Germany proper are in the catch-all category of "All Other". Total Jewish deaths in these camps were less than 150,000 . The majority of whom died of typhus in the last three months of the war as conditions throughout Germany deteriorated due to Allied bombing. These were the camps liberated by the Western Allied forces in April and May 1945. The horrible conditions were filmed and used extensively in anti-German propaganda.
There were a number of these camps but the limitations of this brief description does not permit further explanation.

Additional Comments
At this summary level many details of the story are not addressed. Even at this level certain events defy current scientific understanding of natural law. Some are such integral parts of the story that they cannot be ignored. Since I am avoiding denial or revisionism, I will simply identify them as paranormal events. Depending on whether you have religious views or not, they would be either magic or the result of Devine intervention, i. e. a miracle.
The first such event that I noticed was the burning of bodies at Treblinka. What eyewitness describe is not possible according to natural law. Animal carcasses including human corpses simply will not burn.
The same burning method was used at Belsec and Sobibor, likewise contrary to natural law.
The complete disappearance of Einsatzgruppen mass graves is another miraculous/magical occurrence. Yet another was the ability of Sondercommando workers to enter the hydrogen cyanide filled chambers in Auschwitz and remove the bodies of Holocaust victims without themselves succumbing to the gas.

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Re: Help Me Get Thjs Right

Postby borjastick » 8 months 4 days ago (Wed May 16, 2018 1:50 am)

Looks about right Hegwood but what are you planning to do with this document? The word btw is Divine not Devine.

When you try to sum up the story in a short-ish way as you have it is really suspect. Anyone looking at this with an open mind must surely question the part that no mass graves or human remains have ever been found. The gas chamber efficiency is another good one but also slightly obscure for the average no expert to grasp as they wouldn't have any knowledge of ZyklonB and the detailed claims of the gas chambers.
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Re: Help Me Get Thjs Right

Postby Hegwood » 8 months 4 days ago (Wed May 16, 2018 2:37 am)

My objective is to get some discussion going.
I considered sending copies to influential figures in government, the press, and religion, however at this point I fear I would out myself as the instigator and author of the document. I am not trying to be brave.
Holocaust deniers are now numerous enough that just expressing ones personal belief on the matter probably isn't dangerous but I may have said to much on this site in the past and could be singled out.
Perhaps someone will actually rewrite the summary and I can use their version without being to closely linked to it.


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Re: Help Me Get Thjs Right

Postby Hannover » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed May 16, 2018 1:32 pm)

Another fact is that the impossible storyline keeps changing. They can't keep their stories straight.

And the fake "eyewitnesses" state things which are scientifically impossible, contradict what other fake "eyewitnesses" say, and contradict the official narrative.

and then:
We're talking about an alleged '6M Jews & 5M others' ... 11,000,000.
There is not a single verifiable excavated enormous mass grave with contents actually SHOWN, not just claimed, (recall the claim of 900,000 buried at Treblinka, 1,250,000 at Auschwitz, or 250,000 at Sobibor, 34,000 at Babi Yar) even though Jews claim they still exist and claim to know exactly where these alleged enormous mass graves are.

It's just not difficult.

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Revisionists are just the messengers, the absurd impossibility of the 'holocaust' storyline is the message.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Re: Help Me Get Thjs Right

Postby Hegwood » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed May 16, 2018 9:08 pm)

If the foregoing holocaust story was published in, let's say Germany. would the publisher be prosecuted. I'm sure the answer is yes but for what?


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Re: Help Me Get This Right

Postby Breker » 8 months 3 days ago (Wed May 16, 2018 11:29 pm)

Hegwood wrote:If the foregoing holocaust story was published in, let's say Germany. would the publisher be prosecuted. I'm sure the answer is yes but for what?


Germany's Merkel has allowed her country to be so dominated by Jews and their Cultural Marxism that no one can mention issues which even so called 'mainstream historians' now reject as crap such as 'soap made from Jews' without being arrested. Let alone demonstrating the technical impossibility of the claimed gas chambers and the magically missing human remains.
"Truth is no defense."
Is this not Orwell writ large?
Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the "Holocaust" narrative is the message.

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