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The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby katana » 6 months 2 weeks ago (Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:39 am)

Here's a semi-humorous "info-graphic" on the re-constructed chimney at Auschwitz I, that I've made.

I'd like to get feedback on a few things.

a) Is everything factually correct?

b) Suggestions for additional info or changes to be made, tone, style, etc.

b) Corrections to the text, grammatical, spelling, punctuation, etc.

c) Suggestions for future "Little Known 'Holocaust' Facts Series" info-graphics.

d) Other.

Thanks in advance.


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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby stinky » 6 months 2 weeks ago (Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:35 pm)

I like the idea of the fact sheet.

With respect to 001, will people simply say "Ok, so the chimney was rebuilt, so what?"
It won't fundamentally challenge their programming on the topic.
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby katana » 6 months 2 weeks ago (Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:29 am)

Yes, thanks stinky, I'm aware of that. Actually this "info graphic" is also directed towards people sympathetic to our cause of exposing the holohoax, but who may mistakenly use the fact that the chimney is a reconstruction as if that is strong evidence towards proving our case.

So its purpose is to inform those people who are unaware that "reconstruction" took place, and that it was only officially admitted in the 1990s. Then, as mentioned above, to caution those who try to use that fact as limited proof for the holohoax position.

So it is a kind of subtle way of getting people to wonder what else is a "reconstruction" and how valid they may be.

Point taken though — the next one needs to be a more straight up revisionist fact.
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby JLAD Prove Me Wrong » 6 months 1 week ago (Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:45 am)

katana wrote:So it is a kind of subtle way of getting people to wonder what else is a "reconstruction" and how valid they may be.


I recieved this message in response to this image.

The chimney you posted about on Facebook probably didn’t kill anyone. It just represents the chimney that tons of Jews were killed in


I'm thinking that sending him "David Cole in Auschwitz" would be a move in the right direction.

If your beliefs cannot stand up to your own sincere scrutiny and skeptical evaluation, they are not worth having.

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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby katana » 6 months 1 week ago (Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:11 am)

"The chimney you posted about on Facebook probably didn’t kill anyone. It just represents the chimney that tons of Jews were killed in"

Don't you just love the way how they inserted "probably" into the discussion. The museum admits the chimney was built in 1947, so unless it topples over and kills a rabble of visiting rabbis, it's 100% innocent! Charlie himself admits, "I've never sent anyone to heaven, as I was made in forty-seven!"

As for jews and others going up the original chimneys, then sure, that was why they were built, to safely send them on their way.
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby stinky » 6 months 1 week ago (Tue Dec 11, 2018 9:35 pm)

To imply, as I did, that a single 'info-graphic' would challenge years of hoax programming, is not realistic.
As part of a series of info-graphics, as originally proposed by Katana, would be an excellent way to grab people's limited attention, while chipping away at their programming.
For this purpose, Images are a powerful tool, and most people have only been exposed to the (often misrepresented) hoax industry images.
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled

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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby Carto's Cutlass Supreme » 6 months 1 week ago (Tue Dec 11, 2018 11:37 pm)

It's playful which is good, it attempts humor which is good. I think it floors alot of people when they find that that chimney is post war. I'd say make more, get into your unconscious and make them as wacky as you feel like. My conversion to denier had the influence of powerful graphics. That was part of it. The Auschwitz sign in my case.

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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby katana » 6 months 1 week ago (Wed Dec 12, 2018 7:06 am)

Thanks Stinky and CCS for your encouraging comments. I'll do some more as they occur to me, and of course, I welcome suggestions from others.

One thing I forgot to mention as one of the uses of an info-graphic was to have an image that can be posted on TWITTER, GAB, where you're limited with text.
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 6 months 1 week ago (Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:35 pm)

Underground chimney flues are not nazi super science.



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Above, Aug 42 plan showing 1st [severely damaged] chimney [next to Krema] and the planned replacement.

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Above, 4 April 44 and Google Earth image

The chimney [no.2] the Germans built in 42 and knocked down in the summer of 44 was even farther away than the one the Soviets built after the war.

15.08.1940 - First chimney 10 metres tall completed (Chimney 1) and first cremation performed in the sole double-muffle oven (p.190)

20.02.1941 - Second double muffle oven is completed (p.193)

??.04.1941 - Chimney height is increased to 20 metres (Chimney 2) to raise the performance of second oven by increasing the draft (p.197)

23.06.1941 - Constant use results in the chimney cracking; cremations cease for 5 days whilst iron bands are put on the chimney (p.197)

30.05.1942 - Installation of third double muffle oven finally completed; 8 months after it had been ordered! (p.209)

30.05.1942 - Once all three ovens are fired up, the iron hoops on the chimney snap and deep cracks appear in the masonry. "The men of the Political Department began to fear that the smokestack would collapse on to their offices." (p.212)

12.06.1942 - Construction of a new chimney 15 metres tall begins (p.212)

08.08.1942 - New chimney is complete (Chimney 3), cremations resume after 3 month gap during which a typhus epidemic raged (p.216)

13.08.1942 - New chimney is damaged by the three triple muffle ovens constantly working at full capacity (p.216)

??.07.1943 - Cremations cease at Krema I (p.236)

Summer 44 - Chimney demolished
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby katana » 6 months 1 week ago (Thu Dec 13, 2018 7:30 am)

Thanks for all that info BlackRabbit. That's very helpful.

I'll add the date of construction of the first chimney. I was hunting all over for this and couldn't find it, so thanks.

I'll add the fact that it was doubled in height, but still keep it as Chimney 1.

You say that replacement chimney (2 in my numbering, 3 in yours) was demolished in the summer of 44.

Now, I can't find the actual source of "about Aug 43", for its demolition (2 in my numbering, 3 in yours) that I wrote, as I was looking all over the place and found it somewhere. But according to Auschwitz.org:

http://auschwitz.org/en/visiting/perman ... -chamber-i

It says:

"When the gas chambers in Birkenau were going into operation, the camp authorities transferred the mass killing operation there and gradually phased out the first gas chamber. In July 1943, after the completion of the Birkenau crematoria, the burning of corpses in crematorium I ended. The furnaces and chimney were dismantled, and the holes in the roof used for introducing Zyklon B were closed."

This doesn't state it was soon after July 43, so even summer of 44 could be right.

Do you have the source handy for "summer 44"?

I can see I need to document my sources for any facts I produce!
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 6 months 1 week ago (Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:33 pm)

The chimney was still standing on 04.04.44:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 305984.jpg

But had been demolished by 25.08.44:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 306008.jpg

There's a museum sign besides the crematorium advising visitors the chimney was built post-war:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qVUSEmXhMrM/T ... 12+038.JPG
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby Hektor » 6 months 1 week ago (Fri Dec 14, 2018 4:11 am)

TheBlackRabbitofInlé wrote:The chimney was still standing on 04.04.44:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 305984.jpg

But had been demolished by 25.08.44:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... 306008.jpg

There's a museum sign besides the crematorium advising visitors the chimney was built post-war:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-qVUSEmXhMrM/T ... 12+038.JPG

When was the sign set up with exactly that content?

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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby TheBlackRabbitofInlé » 6 months 1 week ago (Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:47 pm)

Hektor wrote:When was the sign set up with exactly that content?


The various sources quoted in my six posts [under the user-name BRoI] on this thread, prove that it wasn't acknowledged as a reconstruction to visitors until relatively recently: around the turn of the century.

I know of no evidence to confirm it either way, but it would seem—considering the evidence linked above—that the reconstruction was not acknowledged during enormous Frankfurt-Auschwitz trial.


BRoI wrote:Image
- Irmtrud Wojak (ed.), Auschwitz-Prozess 4 Ks 2/63 Frankfurt am Main, Cologne: Snoeck, 2004.

Perhaps someone can tell us whether chief prosecutor Hanns Grossmann and defense counsel Eugen Gerhard were aware that they were looking down a Zyklon-B chimney that was built by the Soviet-Poles, or was that trial misled about post-war adjustments to the gas chamber just like the Duesseldorf-Majdanek trial was?
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Re: The Little Chimney That Couldn't

Postby katana » 6 months 1 week ago (Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:05 am)

Here's the latest version of the info-graphic. Thanks to all, especially Black Rabbit.

Once again feedback welcome.

Here's the complete text:

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Little Known “holocaust” Facts Series — 001

THE LITTLE CHIMNEY THAT COULDN’T!

AUSCHWITZ – THE "GAS CHAMBER" OF CREMATORIUM I – SHOWN TO TOURISTS

Hello there, tourists!
I’m Charlie Chimney!
I’ve never sent anyone to heaven, as I was made in forty-seven!


THE CHIMNEY ISN'T ATTACHED TO THE BUILDING!
IT WAS BUILT BY THE SOVIETS IN 1947.


I was told that
the building behind
me was a hospital
for my friends!

Charlie Chimney’s
Story

I’m the third chimney here! The first chimney was built in Aug ’40, but through heavy use it developed cracks and was replaced in Aug, ’42 with chimney number two! But in mid ’44 it was dismantled as the building had ceased being used as a crematoria by Jul ‘43.

It was only in the early 1990s that I, and the public, learned the “shhh!” secret that I, and others here, were born in 1947!

20181217 - Ver 3
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