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2 Photos - Rotated, Blurred, and Appropriated?

Postby TruthSeeker » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:02 pm)

Photo 1:
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Caption: Prisoners' bodies laid out in a mass grave. (Mauthausen) (May 10-15, 1945)

Photo 2:
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Caption: German civilians from the town of Nordhausen bury the bodies of former prisoners found in the Nordhausen concentration camp in a mass grave. (Nordhausen) (Apr 13-14, 1945)

Photo 1, Zoom 1:
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Photo 2, Zoom 1:
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Keep in mind that these don't need to be the SAME per se. Photoshop has many nice features, such as blurring, rotating, etc.

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Photo 1, Zoom 2:
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Photo 2, Zoom 2:
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Perhaps this is the most significant of the 3 zooms. What is the probability of having two photos of different dead people in different locations at different times that exhibit the SAME position of a specific part of body? Also keep in mind that the blurry nature of the picture doesn't help distinguish bodies and parts from one another, so that too gives rise to a lot of questions.

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Photo 1, Zoom 3:
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Photo 2, Zoom 3:
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Hmmm. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating and seeing similarities between the two. :?
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War of Captions and some more contradictions from the USHMM

Postby TruthSeeker » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 8:49 pm)

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Caption: A Polish boy and his father bury the body of the boy's grandmother, who died in the Nordhausen concentration camp.

These survivors would not allow the Germans to touch their dead, even after Colonel D.B. Hardin ordered the civilian population of the town of Nordhausen to bury the corpses of prisoners found in the Nordhausen concentration camp.


Date: Apr 13, 1945 - Apr 14, 1945
Locale: Nordhausen, [Thuringia] Germany

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Caption: German civilians from the town of Nordhausen bury the bodies of former prisoners found in the Nordhausen concentration camp in a mass grave.

Date: Apr 13, 1945 - Apr 14, 1945
Locale: Nordhausen, [Thuringia] Germany

Look! Same man, one is a survivor, the other a German civilian. I guess cloning was discovered during WWII. :D

Both photos and captions taken from USHMM Photo gallery.

Btw, I e-mailed the USHMM about this. I can't wait to hear their explanation. Maybe we'll have another removed photo, like Simon "we fake photos" Wiesenthal Center. :)

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:07 pm)

It needs to be said that claims about Nordhausen are unsupportable in lieu of devastating Allied bombing raids which killed vast numbers of healthy and ill inmates there.

The dead were then piled up, photos were taken and passed as being murdered by the Germans.

'Life' magazine and others published some of the Nordhausen photos making these fraudulent claims.

see: 'Dissecting the Holocaust', 2nd ed., p.247

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Postby TruthSeeker » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 08, 2004 10:16 pm)

Well, my intentions in attempting to prove that the photos have been manipulated have little to do with proving that there was no extermination. It's more about proving that these photos have been manipulated, and often (if not always) false captions have been attached to them, to be used as propaganda against Germany. :)

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Postby Juan » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:18 am)

Don't be carried away by a Witch-photo-hunt. It could make revisionists look like conspiracy loonies.

Let's concentrate in photos that somewhat "prove" the "holocaust".

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:37 am)

Juan,

I respectfully disagree. Bringing an awareness of the rampant manipulation of 'photos' will challenge our readers to look at them in a different light. We can show them example after example of fraud and the Believer$ can't produce anything to prove their beloved superstition.

Let the judeo-supremacist Thought Police say what they may, we're breathing down their necks and we're not going away.

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Postby TruthSeeker » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:50 pm)

Don't be carried away by a Witch-photo-hunt. It could make revisionists look like conspiracy loonies.

I disagree too. Of course, anything us revisionists say will be interpreted in the wrong way, so there's no escaping from that. And if in the meantime, I can prove that these photos have been manipulated, then it'd help the revisionist cause, I think. Especially in the above case when the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has attached contradictory captions to its photos, which further proves our point that captions can be manipulated and photos appropriated to serve propaganda purposes. I still haven't received a reply from the USHMM, by the way. :D

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Postby Juan » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:47 pm)

Ok

By the way, to me that photos seem like two different photos from the same mass grave.

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Postby TruthSeeker » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 09, 2004 4:07 pm)

to me that photos seem like two different photos from the same mass grave.

I thought about that too. Hmm.. Interesting.

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 5 years ago (Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:44 pm)

Roberto posted on the other forum these pictures as proof of massacres/massgraves captioned:

A mass grave in Drobitski Yar near Kharkov. Fifteen thousand Kharkov Jews were slaughtered here in March 1942.

http://www.gfh.org.il/museum/0000002085 ... _1_Web.jpg
http://www.gfh.org.il/museum/0000002086 ... _1_Web.jpg

I can't make out the text at the sites, they are using strange letters.

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Corrected image links.
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Postby TruthSeeker » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 16, 2004 12:31 pm)

I can't make out the text at the sites, they are using strange letters.

It's Hebrew. :) If you click on the U.S/U.K flags, you'll get the page in English. :)

Also, I believe the links you posted are not functional.

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:14 pm)

Roberto posted on the other forum these pictures as proof of massacres/mass graves


[Still edited by Moderator2] Click on image to enlarge!

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I never cease to be amazed at the crudeness of this poisonous filth.

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:29 pm)

Print No: 2 of Truthseekers original post is a forgery/montage!

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 16, 2004 1:37 pm)

See more from the tin foil hat crew of the Ghettos Fighters' House:

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1239

http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1240

And what does this say about this Roberto?

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Jul 16, 2004 5:13 pm)

TruthSeeker wrote:
I can't make out the text at the sites, they are using strange letters.

It's Hebrew. :) If you click on the U.S/U.K flags, you'll get the page in English. :)

Also, I believe the links you posted are not functional.

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I corrected the image links.

That is Hebrew? It looks somewhat like Nepalese to me.

Anyway, look closely at the pictures:

1. It appears that the bodies are partially decomposed, i.e. burried before and uncovered/disinterred when the pictures were taken. How on earth did they get the sand and dirt out so neatly between the bodies and out of the cavities and hollow spaces?

2. So the bodies were not cremated, ground and made invisible by SS-man Blobel, as allegedly happened in the Reinhardt camps, in Babi Yar and Riga.

3. The bodies seem to be dressed. I always thought that the people who were to be shot were first undressed, then shot, then the gold teeth were pulled to help pay for the war effort by Germany, and then the hair was cut to be used to make detonators of time-delayed bombs.

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