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Jair Bolsonaro: We can forgive, but we cannot forget / Yad Vashem: no forgiveness

Postby Hektor » 2 months 1 week ago (Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:43 am)

JERUSALEM (JTA) — Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro has come under fire for saying that the crimes of the Holocaust can be forgiven.

We can forgive, but we cannot forget,” Bolsonaro reportedly said at a meeting with Evangelical pastors in Rio de Janiero on Thursday night. “Those who forget the past are condemned to not have a future,” he added, according to the New York Times.
His comments drew applause from the pastors.

Bolsonaro, an ardently pro-Israel Christian, visited Israel two weeks ago, where he had a private tour of the Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial in Jerusalem.

“It is not the place of any person to determine whether the crimes of the Holocaust can be forgiven,” Yad Vashem said in a statement sent to Israeli media on Saturday night. “From the day of its founding, Yad Vashem has worked for the continuation of the memory and meaning [of the Holocaust] for the Jewish people and for mankind as a whole.”

Israeli President Reuven Rivlin was very direct in his criticism in a tweet. “What Amalek did to us inscribed in our memory, the memory of an ancient people. We will never aid those who deny the truth or those who wish to expunge our memory – not individuals or groups, not party leaders or prime ministers. We will never forgive and never forget. No-one will order the forgiveness of the Jewish people, and it can never be bought in the name of interests. The Jewish people will always fight anti-Semitism and xenophobia. Political leaders are responsible for shaping the future. Historians describe the past and research what happened. Neither should stray into the territory of the other.”

As of midnight on Saturday night, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who escorted Bolsonaro around Israel during his visit, had not responded to the Brazilian president’s remarks.

https://www.jta.org/2019/04/13/israel/c ... onaro-says

Here us the tweet by Reuven Rivlin:
https://twitter.com/PresidentRuvi/statu ... 1375546368

The usage of the term Amalek I find remarkable. It's almost an appeal to Mythology there. Then of course pointing out that there is, according to him, a "denial of truth". I'd say they overreacted with their response there.

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Re: Jair Bolsonaro: We can forgive, but we cannot forget / Yad Vashem: no forgiveness

Postby Lamprecht » 2 months 1 week ago (Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:48 am)

The usage of the term Amalek I find remarkable. It's almost an appeal to Mythology there.

Yes, it is quite clear that various racist Jews see modern Whites, not just Germans, as Amalek. Everyone who studies the Jews knows that the term "Amalek" and "Amalekites" is meant to refer to all of the enemies of the Jews, most usually White people generally, but also the Palestinians and Iranians and anyone else they hate.

Deuteronomy 25:19 wrote: Therefore it shall be, when the LORD thy God hath given thee rest from all thine enemies round about, in the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee for an inheritance to possess it, that thou shalt blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven; thou shalt not forget.

The term is only used in the context of people they want to commit genocide against. It is actually really just a code-word for "people we must exterminate"

https://twitter.com/bariweiss/status/11 ... 0267509760
Bari Weiss
This shabbat is called the sabbath of remembrance, in which Jews are asked to remember--and to blot out--the nation of Amalek, infamous for murdering the weakest, most defenseless Israelites. Among Amalek's modern heirs: The terrorists who gunned down innocents in New Zealand.
3:31 AM - Mar 15, 2019
Miss Weiss is a NYT columnist, and here she explicitly referred to Brenton Tarrant as one of "Amalek's modern heirs".

Calling someone "Amalek" is literally equivalent of saying they must be exterminated. The Jewish holy texts say that they're supposed to kill all of them and slaughter their children.
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Re: Jair Bolsonaro: We can forgive, but we cannot forget / Yad Vashem: no forgiveness

Postby stinky » 2 months 1 week ago (Mon Apr 15, 2019 11:21 pm)

The Brazilian President has a soft spot for a special country in the ME - as do his sons it seems.

"The far-right Brazilian leader was "Catholic" but in 2016 he was baptized as Evangelical Christian on the Jordan River, a fact he referred to several times when he arrived in Israel on Sunday."

Yair is a Hebrew given name, a variant of Jair. It may also be used as a surname.

In the Biblical Book of Judges, Yair (Hebrew: יָאִיר Yā’îr, "he enlightens")

Media from his recent visit to Israel:
"Brazil’s President Jair Bolsonaro is cutting his visit to Israel short by one day, according to a report late Monday night by Channel 13 News."

"Bolsonaro reportedly canceled a meeting with immigrants to Israel from Brazil. No reason was given for the decision."

"Earlier in the day, the Brazilian leader toured the Western Wall in the Old City of Jerusalem, together with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu."

"The Brazilian leader was not scheduled to visit the Palestinian Authority, nor meet with any PA officials, on this trip."
The "Evangelical" President Mr Bolsonaro & his son with their little hats on - receiving formal instructions, during a visit to a synagogue inside the Western Wall Tunnels in Jerusalem's Old City April 1, 2019.
Jair Bolsonaro's sons wearing some supporters T-shirts.
Lifted from official twitter account.
Jair with his boyfriend at the Western Wall, April 2019
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