Did Frederick Toben claim "The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007"?

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Did Frederick Toben claim "The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007"?

Postby Lamprecht » 1 year 2 months ago (Thu Aug 08, 2019 5:42 pm)

A very odd quote I came across attributed to revisionist Frederick Toben.

"The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007," Australian Frederick Toben told the conference, according to a Farsi translation of his comments. "The railroad to the camp did not have enough capacity to transfer large numbers of Jews."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-klan-ch ... onference/

This doesn't make sense. As we know, there were far more deaths from typhus at Auschwitz than 2,007.

If you search google you can find this quote repeated in a few places

https://www.google.com/search?q="The+number+of+victims+at+the+Auschwitz+concentration+camp+could+be+about+2%2C007"

Example:
For example, someone may ostensibly accept that the Holocaust took place, but claim the death toll has been exaggerated. At the 2006 Iranian conference, Frederick Toben, an Australian who was imprisoned in Germany in 1999 for his Holocaust views, gave delegates an absurdly specific alternative death toll: ‘The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007. The railroad to the camp did not have enough capacity to transfer large numbers of Jews.’
https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/30/many-sub ... l-7272520/


Possibly just a ridiculous mistranslation?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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Re: Did Frederick Toben claim "The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007"?

Postby forasanerworld » 1 year 2 months ago (Fri Aug 09, 2019 9:52 am)

Alicia Kearns, a hate crime expert who has worked with the Ministry of Justice and in counter-terrorism, said that we need to trust our instincts – if something seems off, think about why. ‘What is most insidious about anti-Semitism is how perpetrators seek to normalise what is nothing more than hatred,’ she told Metro.co.uk. ‘They seek to silence victims, strangling their voices. It’s important we trust our intuition. We will each feel uncomfortable, or that something is wrong, when hatred is being spread – even in the most obscured manner. We must give victims a voice, and use ours to challenge and stop any attempt to legitimise hatred.’ Kearns added that the authorities will treat reports of Holocaust denial as a hate crime, and that it’s important to report any incidents to the police.

Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/30/many-sub ... to=cbshare

Twitter: https://twitter.com/MetroUK | Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MetroUK/Rather more concerning is some content in the metro link:


So we have official hate hunters seeking to silence the alledged silencers, UN Decalartion of Human Rights Article 19, traduced again.

Here's her bio https://www.aliciakearns.com/about

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Re: Did Frederick Toben claim "The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007"?

Postby Dresden » 1 year 2 months ago (Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:04 am)

forasanerworld wrote:[i]Alicia Kearns, a hate crime expert who has worked with the Ministry of Justice and in counter-terrorism, said that we need to trust our instincts – if something seems off, think about why. ‘What is most insidious about anti-Semitism is how perpetrators seek to normalise what is nothing more than hatred,’ she told Metro.co.uk. ‘They seek to silence victims, strangling their voices. It’s important we trust our intuition. We will each feel uncomfortable, or that something is wrong, when hatred is being spread – even in the most obscured manner. We must give victims a voice, and use ours to challenge and stop any attempt to legitimise hatred.’ Kearns added that the authorities will treat reports of Holocaust denial as a hate crime, and that it’s important to report any incidents to the police.


Not only is this blatant PROJECTION ..... but I also found some typos.

Here is the corrected version:

(((Alicia Kearns))), a TRUTH crime expert who has worked with the Ministry of PROPAGANDA and in counter-TRUTH, said that we need to trust BIG BROTHER – if something seems off, think about why. ‘What is most insidious about TRUTH is how RESEARCHERS seek to normalize what is nothing more than TRUTH,’ she told Metro.co.uk. ‘They seek to silence LIARS, REFUTING their LIES. It’s important we trust BIG BROTHER. We will each feel uncomfortable, or that something is wrong, when TRUTH is being spread – even in the most obscured manner. We must give LIARS a voice, and use our LIES to challenge and stop any attempt to legitimize TRUTH.’ (((Kearns))) added that BIG BROTHER will treat reports of Holocaust SKEPTICISM as a TRUTH crime, and that it’s important to report any incidents to BIG BROTHER.

I hope this was helpful. :D
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Re: Did Frederick Toben claim "The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007"?

Postby Breker » 1 year 2 months ago (Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:20 am)

forasanerworld wrote:Alicia Kearns, a hate crime expert who has worked with the Ministry of Justice and in counter-terrorism, said that we need to trust our instincts – if something seems off, think about why. ‘What is most insidious about anti-Semitism is how perpetrators seek to normalise what is nothing more than hatred,’ she told Metro.co.uk. ‘They seek to silence victims, strangling their voices. It’s important we trust our intuition. We will each feel uncomfortable, or that something is wrong, when hatred is being spread – even in the most obscured manner. We must give victims a voice, and use ours to challenge and stop any attempt to legitimise hatred.’ Kearns added that the authorities will treat reports of Holocaust denial as a hate crime, and that it’s important to report any incidents to the police.

Orwellian language at it's very best.

We see that this Alicia Kearns does not tell us how it is that revisionists are trying to "silence" the alleged "victims".
We certainly would be curious as to how that is done.
Ms. Kearns loads up her twisted language by saying that revisionists are "strangling their voices" in an attempt to associate revisionist scholarship with violence when in fact it is very real violence that is used against revisionists.
Let's face it, such violence & arrests of Thought Criminals are used because the "Holocaust" mythology does not hold it's own in debate.

Frankly, we must also wonder how much money Ms. Kearns rakes in for espousing Zionist lies.

from: https://metro.co.uk/2018/01/30/many-sub ... l-7272520/
By accusing Jewish people of exaggerating the death toll, deniers are indirectly accusing Jewish people of exploiting the Holocaust – a claim that plays into a number of anti-Semitic tropes. Many deniers suggest that Jews intentionally exploit the Holocaust in order to justify war crimes and human rights abuses carries out by the state of Israel against the Palestinian people.
Yes, the rather thoroughly refuted "Holocaust" is exploited by Jews. The cash flowing from that scam is enormous.
Yes, the truly violent Zionists use their propaganda to carry out mass murder and ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians. Clearly she is in denial of the facts that are now in the mainstream.

Then:
It’s important that all of us challenge hatred whenever we encounter it, whether online or in person,’ she said. ‘If you become aware of an organisation or individual driving hatred by perpetrating the idea that the Holocaust was not real, you can visit your local police station, or alternatively make a report online to the Community Security Trust, https://cst.org.uk/report-incident which also offers support to victims. Online, you can also report any individual or group’s posts to the social media provider.
Now that takes some brass. She / they are not "challenging" anything. She / they are trying to stamp out free speech, eliminate all thoughts and speech which are not "good for Jews" and the profits and massive benefits they receive from their weaponized "Holocaust" fraud.
It's no secret the left wing governments like the UK & EU use the quite ridiculous "Holocaust" fib to advance their agendas of Totalitarian control.

We see that an online report can be filed via the Orwellian named "Community Security Trust", which in fact is a Jew organization. Not an organization that anyone could describe as unbiased, agenda free. Au contraire.
Since when are such Zionist fronts like the double speaking liar, Alicia Kearns, and the Orwellian named "Community Security Trust" considered arbiters of public well being?

B.
Revisionists are just the messengers, the impossibility of the "Holocaust" narrative is the message.

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Re: Did Frederick Toben claim "The number of victims at the Auschwitz concentration camp could be about 2,007"?

Postby Lamprecht » 1 year 2 months ago (Fri Aug 09, 2019 12:30 pm)

So I suspect the 2,007 Auschwitz victims was something translated back into English from a Farsi transcript of an English speech? Possibly Toben said something different and he was misheard by the translator? It is quite an odd accusation against him
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
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