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Acclaimed 'eyewitness' Henryk Tauber / stranger than fiction

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Nov 29, 2002 1:47 pm)

Henryk Tauber, an alleged crematorium worker who claimed to have slept in the crematoria dormitories, is considered vital to the standard 'Holocaust' story; he is repeatedly cited by the Industry faithful. Here is what he had to say:

:arrow: In testifying to the Soviet Commission (Nuremberg document USSR-008) of 1945, he claims 10,000-12,000 per day were cremated in the ovens of Auschwitz-Birkenau.

This is an utter impossibility given the timeline and the number of functioning crematoria at Auschwitz/Birkenau. The 10,000-12,000 per day figure also served the Communist assertion that 279,000 were cremated monthly (as alleged by the Soviets in a May 1945 report). No other figure would serve the propaganda, and the figure is itself utterly laugable.

:arrow: Tauber stated that a body could be cremated in 5-7 minutes.

An impossibility even today (it's more like 60-90 minutes), simply absurd with 1940s technology.

:arrow: Tauber stated:
"Ober Capo August explained to us that, according to the calculations and plans for this crematorium, 5 to 7 minutes was allowed to burn one corpse in a muffle."

There are no such "calculations and plans" in the records.

:arrow: Tauber testified to skimming off boiling human fat from massive open air cremations.

Impossible, the fat would have ignited; there is no evidence for massive cremation pits.

:arrow: Tauber testified to reservoirs filled with human fat that flowed from the burning corpses.

same as above

:arrow: Tauber:
"One day the SS men threw a man into the boiling fat (in the open-air pit filled with human fat that ran from the corpses into a separate reservoir dug in the ground, and was poured over the corpses to accelerate the combustion), then pulled him out, still alive, and shot him. "The next day, the corpse was brought back to the crematorium, where it was incinerated in a pit"

No explanation necessary.

:arrow: Tauber testified that he inserted and cremated 8 bodies at once, in one oven muffle, in order to signal Allied aircraft with smoke.

Impossible, there was not enough space for 8 corpses, and more than one corpse per muffle would have caused damaged to the oven, as stated by the builder of the crematoria, SS Kurt Prufer. Plus, the crematoria at Auschwitz gave off practically no smoke...as evidenced by many wartime aerial photos.

:arrow: Tauber speaks of the existence of quaint wooden benches in the alleged 'gas chambers'.

Lovely, considering the already impossible space availability vs. the numbers allegedly gassed per session. There is no rational, sustainable evidence for homicidal gas chambers.

What all of this shows is that Tauber has been attributed with giving 'eyewitness' testimony that is not only impossible and simply ridiculous; but was meant to serve the unsustainable claims about Auschwitz.

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Nov 29, 2002 7:53 pm)

Tauber speaks of the existence of quaint wooden benches in the alleged 'gas chambers'.


The alleged gas chambers were morgues. The corpses were placed on wooden frames to be off the ground.Something to do with ventilation. These frames were probably what the man was referring to.

Tauber testified that he inserted and cremated 8 bodies at once, in one oven muffle, in order to signal Allied aircraft with smoke.


He should have used morse code: SOS = …---…(Save our Souls).
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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 6 years ago (Fri Nov 29, 2002 8:33 pm)

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As to Tauber's saying there were benches in the gas chambers Sailor commented:

The alleged gas chambers were morgues. The corpses were placed on wooden frames to be off the ground.Something to do with ventilation. These frames were probably what the man was referring to.

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There is no need to believe that Tauber testified to anything mistakenly or that there could have been something that would have caused him to say something. There is nothing to say we have to believe there was any realistic foundation to whatever he said.

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Postby Peptic » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Nov 30, 2002 6:25 pm)

Henryk Tauber, an alleged crematorium worker who claimed to have slept in the crematoria dormitories, is considered vital to the standard 'Holocaust' story; he is repeatedly cited by the Industry faithful. Here is what he had to say:

:arrow: Tauber speaks of the existence of quaint wooden benches in the alleged 'gas chambers'.


Where does he say this? To my knowledge he only locates the benches in the undressing rooms.

What's most significant about Tauber's testimony to my mind are not the implausibilities (mainly relating to the rapidity of cremation) but the highly accurate and technical data that Tauber, a humble shoemaker, is able to recount about the layout of the crematoria the operation of the ovens.

Consider, for instance, Tauber's account of Krema IV and V:

Krematorium IV and V were built on the same plan and situated symmetrically on either side of the road running between construtction stage BII and "Mexico" in the direction of the new sauna. These Krematorien were each fitted with two four-muffle furnaces. The muffles were in pairs on each side. One firebox heated two muffles, which together made up half of a furnace. Each furnace had its own chimney. The undressing room and the gas chambers were installed on the ground flour, and the part of the building where they were located was not so high as the "boiler room" so that it had the appearance of an annex to the crematorium. The boiler room was separated from the undressing room by a narrow corridor with four internal doors, allowing passage between the two rooms. The undressing room was illuminated by four small barred windows giving on the exterior. Another door opened onto the yard of the Krematorium. This entrance was flanked by two windows.


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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Nov 30, 2002 8:01 pm)

:arrow: see p. 494 - Pressac, 1989

There is nothing credible about Tauber and the alleged gas chambers since there is no credible evidence that homicidal gas chambers existed, period. If you believe in them, then by all means create a separate thread and tell us exactly why.

As for descriptions of the crematorium for typhus control, well that was/is well known and is not in dispute.

The 'human fat, 8 per muffle, gas chambrs, cremation times of 5-7 minutes', etc. all simply expose the absurd and laughable nature of Tauber...yet the 'holocaust' Industry places faith in him, most revealing.

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Postby Sailor » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Nov 30, 2002 8:13 pm)

Where does he say this? To my knowledge he only locates the benches in the undressing rooms.

I don't find it either, but Mattognos refers to benches in morgue 1 in one of his articles in connection with the design of the air-ventilation system for the morgue. If important I will try to locate it.

What's most significant about Tauber's testimony to my mind is not the implausibilities (mainly relating to the rapidity of cremation) but the highly accurate and technical data that Tauber, a humble shoemaker, is able to recount about the layout of the crematoria the operation of the ovens.


Being such a humble shoemaker, someone else may have written Tauber's affidavit for him. It is well written for a man with little education.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Jul 26, 2003 3:11 am)

I recently saw a True Believer site which said they found so called "eyewitness" Henryk Tauber to be the man that Revisionists wish would go away.

On the contrary, the True Believers seem to be projecting their own feelings upon Revisionists.

In this thread you will find out exactly why the True Believers wish the Revisionists would go away and stop scrutinizing the bizarre and utterly absurd nonsense of Tauber.

I invite everyone to review this thread on Mr. Henryk Tauber, the highly touted "eyewitness" of the so called 'holocau$t.

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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Jul 26, 2003 9:02 am)

Hannover comments:
I recently saw a True Believer site which said they found so called "eyewitness" Henryk Tauber to be the man that Revisionists wish would go away.

On the contrary, the True Believers seem to be projecting their own feelings upon Revisionists.

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That must be one of those websites staffed by persons that don't know that much about the Holocaust debate.

Tauber is a hot potato for those more sophisticated in knowing what's going on. Tauber would be one of those original 'witnesses' who told the story that was designed to advance the 4,000,000 number at Auschwitz, which is currently 1,000,000 or less.

The more aware members of the Holocaust community rely on the 'damage control' second string eyewitnesses and information to advance the 1,000,000 number. Just about every one of the first string story tellers claimed 10,000 to 12,000 Jews a day were cremated in ovens so you can't be calling attention to that.

There are even some 'naive' Holocaust promotional sites that carry the full text of the 'Soviet-Polish Extraordinary Commission Report on the Crimes of the Hitlerites at Majdanek'.

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Postby Alain » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:49 pm)

Hannover wrote:I recently saw a True Believer site which said they found so called "eyewitness" Henryk Tauber to be the man that Revisionists wish would go away.

On the contrary, the True Believers seem to be projecting their own feelings upon Revisionists.

In this thread you will find out exactly why the True Believers wish the Revisionists would go away and stop scrutinizing the bizarre and utterly absurd nonsense of Tauber.

I invite everyone to review this thread on Mr. Henryk Tauber, the highly touted "eyewitness" of the so called 'holocau$t.

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Why the mystery? What site is this Tauber endorsement to be found on?

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:57 pm)

No mystery, it's irrelevant to the discussion.

Tauber is a biggie for the True Believers, and we at this Forum have demonstrated that he is an absurd fraud.

Don't post to this thread if you don't want to talk about Tauber, stay on topic.

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Postby TMoran » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sat Jul 26, 2003 4:53 pm)

Alain wonders:
Why the mystery? What site is this Tauber endorsement to be found on?

Whenever you want to see who has what try GOOGLE. In this case type in Tauber's full name and it'll take you to whoever has something on him.

You'll find that maybe more revisionist sites have stuff on Tauber than Holocaust promotional sites do.

Try this one for the full Tauber nonsense -
http://www.mazal.org/archive/documents/ ... uber01.htm

It's the website of Harry Mazal. He's hooked up with the only remnants of the declining bunch of Internet Holocaust defenders, most of who used to be on alt.revisionism.

Bring back some of Tauber's 'facts' and we'll discuss them.

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Postby Alain » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sun Jul 27, 2003 11:49 am)

Hannover wrote:Don't post to this thread if you don't want to talk about Tauber, stay on topic.


Jesus Christ! Are you the moderator now?

I am talking about Tauber. But how am I supposed to comment on material mentioned secondhand and that I can't see for myself?

Thanks to TMoran for providing a relevant link.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Sun Jul 27, 2003 12:27 pm)

The source I mentioned didn't provide specifics on Tauber's nonsense, only that Revisionists wished he would go away....which I have shown is what the True Believers actually wish.

Get a grip, big guy.

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Postby PotPie » 1 decade 1 month ago (Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:29 am)

Sailor wrote: The alleged gas chambers were morgues. The corpses were placed on wooden frames to be off the ground.Something to do with ventilation. These frames were probably what the man was referring to.


He may have had some vague familiarity with wooden frames for some usage, but not in the Birkenau crematoria. It's more than plainly obvious by his Krakow deposition that he'd never worked in these facilities.

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Postby PotPie » 1 decade 1 month ago (Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:22 am)

Hannover wrote:I recently saw a True Believer site which said they found so called "eyewitness" Henryk Tauber to be the man that Revisionists wish would go away.


:lol: :bounce: Remember the link or the site?


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