Germans set off nuclear test - Mar. 3, 1945

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Germans set off nuclear test - Mar. 3, 1945

Postby TMoran » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:23 am)

Orlando Sentinel

March 15, 2005

Book: Nazis set off test for atomic bomb

Tells the reader about a book written by a German economic historian, Rainer Karlsch. The book is titled Hitler's Bomb. He says the Germans tested a bomb at Ohrdruf, at a concentration camp no less, and even more no less that they set it off on March 3, 1945. He says he had soil samples and analysis shows them to have above average contents of cesium 137 and cobalt 60. Not only that but they tried more than one. He says all his research would mesh with an account he found in Soviet military archives.

Seems like a book we should have someone look into so we can see if there's a copy of what the writer says he found in the Soviet records so we can include it with the rest of the nonsense we have from Bolshevik archives.

The Sentinel article was from the Associated Press. You can count on the Associated Press for coming out with stuff like that and the likes of the Orlando Sentinel printing it. Even though it should be obvious from the wording of the article that the claim is total nonsense there should be enough persons in the United States who would believe it that add up to millions. That's why it's reported in the first place.

Who knows, maybe the U.S. Memorial Holocaust Museum will come up with a English translation.

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Postby gasto » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 11:44 am)

here´s more info about this ... index.html

anyway, I don´t believe anything that article says...
If Human Soap rumour was fake, why can´t all the other absurd claims be too??

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:22 pm)

So, how does this square with Nizkor's attempt to smear Revisionists? ... ic-01.html
Better hurry before they pull it.

Also, David Irving, who has written on this topic, comments.

- Hannover
LET US marvel once again at the ability of your average broadsheet journalist to write a story like this without once consulting the author who alone interviewed all the Nazi atomic scientists and nuclear physicists (and of course Reich armaments minister Albert Speer, without whom such a project would have been impossible) in writing his book The Virus House (The German Atomic Bomb, Simon & Schuster, New York, 1967): namely, myself.

By the time Prof Mark Walker came along, these scientists were dead, and he relied heavily on my 1967 book and documents while at the same time lashing out at me as a -- guess what -- "Holocaust denier". The biography of Werner Heisenberg by Thomas Powers is more discerning.
That Walker can be a professor at a New York college and spout these views is disturbing (unless he is doing so for a fee). That a reputable firm like Deutsche Verlags-Anstalt published the book -- they are after all Germany's quasi-official history publishers -- is equally astonishing. My book was published in Germany, and Der Spiegel serialised it for several weeks. What were these new folks all smoking, one wonders?

NOW to the claims which this new author makes: they are rubbish, from the Rudolf-Hess- wasn't-really- Rudolf Hess school of history.
Here is a brief synopsis of the real German atomic research story. There were two rival teams working towards getting an atomic pile critical -- one of theoretical scientists and academics under Nobel prize winner Werner Heisenberg, the other a more empirical team under army scientist Dr Kurt Diebner.
Both teams had wrongly been informed by mathematician Professor Bothe that graphite could not be used as a moderator in an atomic pile (now called a nuclear reactor); this left only "heavy water" (deuterium oxide) as a choice, and this substance dribbled forth from the much-attacked heavy water plant in Norway at such a painfully slow rate that they still did not have enough when the war ended.
Heisenberg's men nevertheless began building a rudimentary pile in a cave at Haigerloch in southern Germany (see my picture below), with which they experimented until they were captured by the ALSOS mission headed by US colonel Boris Pash and his MI6 colleague Michael Perrin.
Diebner's army team did actually attempt to create a fusion reaction by imploding conventional explosives on deuterium (heavy water), in one rudimentary experiment.
The German war economy lacked all the basic resources to build an atomic fission bomb, once Speer had assigned top priority to the V2 rocket project. It had no means whatever to build a "dirty" bomb.
The suggestion that the Germans lacked "pure-grade uranium" is absurd, unless this refers to the enriched U235, bomb making ("weapons-grade") material; the Germans had captured the Belgian uranium-ore stockpiles in 1940, and Degussa had no problems refining it. The ALSOS teams found hundreds of cubes of solid uranium, as photographs in my book show.
Nor is the 1941 "plutonium" patent news: Carl-Friedrich von Weizsäcker, scientist brother of the later German president Richard von W., was a member of the Heisenberg team, and in the Oak Ridge, Tennessee archives of the US Atomic Energy Authority I found the original proposal made by him to the Heereswaffenamt (German Army Ordnance Dept) on July 1, 1940, for the production of plutonium from a nuclear reactor -- once they had got it critical. They never did.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby kk » 1 decade 4 years ago (Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:47 pm)

The most condemning sentense in Irvings' writings can be found in his book
about Field Marshall Milch:
"When Milch was informed that the whole Manhattan Plan was financed
with monies that would cover the expences of the Luftwaffe for six months,
he became exasperated: So cheap!"
(Quoting from memory again)

Due to the great german scientists of the war years, Hitler was denied this super-
They could have produced it, but they did not want to.
Perhaps there was enough killing for them.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:31 am)

The Germans also had vast quantities of poison gas (nerve gas etc.) they could have used, but chose not to. It would appear that it was the German & Axis powers who had the moral high ground.

The US was/is the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons. And they used them against civilians of an essentially defeated nation. No wonder the US bought into the communist judeo-supremacist lies. False allegations and mandated belief in 'gas chambers' provide great cover for Allied atrocities.

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If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Mar 17, 2005 8:02 am)

Hitler simply didn't want it. He said that the consequences of such a bomb would be devastating for mankind, and he was correct.

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Postby Radar » 1 decade 4 years ago (Thu Mar 17, 2005 5:43 pm)

A cable news channel recently reported the nuclear destruction of camp victims. They said traces of cesium and other radioactive samples were found at the site.

I just read the other nazi a-bomb thread. Instead of going at it from the document end, perhaps someone should analyze the necessary physical results to the site from a nuclear blast capable of killing 20,000 persons? Such a blast would probably have left a crater and surface transformation from heat.

Perhaps the lack of this blast pit is why the cable news channel said "There wasn't any nuclear blast because there wasn't enough nuclear material available".

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