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TABLE OF CONTENTS
The author's biography!
Revisonism and pluralism: An Introduction by Mario Consoli
The throttling of pluralism
The crisis and Man and the State
The criminalization of Fascism and National Socialism
The role of the Official Version of History
Some standard criticisms of Revisionism
At the crossroads: terror or dialogue?
Holocaust beliefs since 1945
Compared to the Holocaust, all other "Nazi crimes" pale into insignificance!
"The 3 million non-Jewish Poles"
"The 500,000 gypsies"
Medical experiments on human beings
The Holocaust as a religion
Why nearly everybody believes in the Holocaust
THE FUNCTION OF THE HOLOCAUST IN THE WORLD SINCE 1945
Founding of the state of Israel and the violation of the rights of Palestinians
Immunity of Jews from criticism
Covering up Allied atrocities in WW II
Creating contempt for the German people
Rendering impossible all objective discussion of National Socialism
Creating contempt for all forms of nationalism except for Jewish nationalism
The claims of the revisionists
A former concentration camp inmate as revisionist pioneer: Paul Rassinier
The media campaign against revisionism
State prosecutors and judges as watch dogs for the official version of history
The Waterloo of the official version of history
WHAT IF THE REVISIONISTS ARE RIGHT?
What really happened?
Up to 1941: The Reichs government demands Jewish emigration
After 1941: The mass deportation into camps and ghettos
The death rate in the camps and its causes
The shootings on the Eastern front
OH, WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE...
The number of Auschwitz victims
"Soap of human fat"
Potpourri of Nazi extermination methods
a) pneumatic hammers
b) electric baths
c) electrical assembly line killing
d) atomic bombs
e) burning alive
f) steam chambers
g) suffocation by pumping all the air out of the death chambers
h) quicklime trains
i) chambers with submergible, electrified flooring
j) blood poisoning
l) chlorine gas, assembly-line shootings, boiling water, acid
The location of the gas chambers
Phase I (from 1946: almost every camp had one or more gas chamber(s)
Phase II (from August 1960): no gas chambers in the Old Reich
Phase III (from 1983): Return of the gas chambers in the West
The gas chambers existed; oh no, they didn't; oh yes, they did
IS TODAY'S VERSION OF THE HOLOCAUST ANY MORE BELIEVABLE THAN THOSE OF THE PAST?
Claims made by standard literature
a) The extermination programme
b) Implementation of the execution programme
c) The secrecy of the extermination programme
d) The six "extermination camps"
e) The murder weapon
f) The number of victims and operating periods of the "extermination camps"
g) The destruction of the corpses
PHYSICAL PROOFS OF THE HOLOCAUST
Are the claims made by standard literature believable?
DOCUMENTARY PROOFS OF THE HOLOCAUST
Raul Hilberg, Danuta Czech, Jean-Claude Pressac: Three "experts" dip into their bag of tricks
a) Professor Hilberg scrpes the bottom of the barrel for proof, but finds none
b) How Danuta Czech's Calendarium came to her conclusions as to the number of the gassed
c) Jean-Claude Pressac's "criminal traces"
"The Germans destroyed all the documents"
Conjuring up "proof"
a) The Wannsee-Protocoll
b) The document of 28 June 1943 on the capacity of the crematoria of Auschwitz
Documents of dubious authenticity
a) The Goebbels-Diary passages of 27 March 1942
b) The two Himmler speeches of October 1943
c) The business letter relating to the ordering of "gas testers"
Undoubtedly genuine but falsely interpreted documents
a) The passage on the "Hebraic Race Perverters" from Mein Kampf
b) Documents on the "Final Solution to the Jewish Question"
c) Documents on "Special Actions", etc.
d) The Korrherr Report: masterpiece of misinterpretation
Documents which contradict the extermination theory
EYEWITNESSES TO THE GAS CHAMBERS AT AUSCHWITZ
A few of the technical and scientific impossibilities in the eyewitness reports
a) Blue vapour floating over the bodies of the victims
b) Bluish discoloration of the bodies
c) Impossibly large numbers of people per square metre crammed together in the gas chambers
d) Flames shooting out of the chimneys
e) Impossibly great numbers of bodies per muffle in the crematory ovens
f) Cremation of bodies without fuel
g) Burning of bodies in ditches
h) Use of human fat flowing down off the bodies as fuel during cremations
i) Use of methanol as fuel
Four central impossibilities of the eyewitness testimonies
a) Impossibly short cremation times per corpse
b) Introduction of Zyklon B through non-existent openings
c) Opening the gas chamber doors and removing the bodies after impossibly short ventilation times
d) Removal of bodies without gas masks
e) Sonderkommandos working in clouds of cyanide gas
THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AUSCHWITZ LEGEND
How the eyewitness reports were coordinated
How the courts faked "evidence" of the Holocaust
A perfect example: Dr J.P. Kremer
The Father of the Auschwitz Lie
The "murder weapon" Zyklon B: refutation of the lie
AUSCHWITZ: SCIENTIFIC STUDIES OF THE CRIME SCENE
The Leuchter report
The Rudolf Report
Carlo Mattogno and Franco Deana: the crematoria
John Ball and the air-photo evidence
THE OTHER "EXTERMINATION CAMPS"
The scientific studies
a) Friedrich Paul Berg's study of the "murder weapon"
b) Arnulf Neumaier's study of the cremations
What were the "pure extermination camps" really?
THE GAS VANS AND MASS SHOOTINGS
"A pure product of fantasy"
The Einsatzgruppen and the "Massacre of Babi Yar"
SIX MILLION MIRACLES
"A unique mass murder"
A stroll through the "free press" of the world
A few examples
Elie Wiesel's miraculous escapes
How Jewish Holocaust "survivors" cheated death
WHERE DID THEY GO?
The origins of the mythical Six Million figure
Wolfgang Benz and Walter Sanning
Carl Nording's research
The exemplary case of one "gassing victim": Jenny Spritzer
300,000 "Holocaust survivors" in Israel in 1996
Questions still open
THE INVISIBLE ELEPHANT
THE NESSUS SHIRT
The Revenge of the Centaur
The refusal of the exterminationists to retreat one single inch
The Garaudy case
The confession of an orthodox historian
Korzec and Goldhagen: a new version of the lie
The evolution of the Holocaust Lie: A summary
THE TRIAL OF GRAF INQUISITION, PART 1
THE TRIAL OF GRAF INQUISITION, PART 2
A. Due to Zionists desire for state of Israel, the politic body decided to openly declare its allegiance to Great Britain and this was considered treason of Jews by the German government. Not then being able to trust Jews, the Jews were confined to camps until they could either post passage to another country or be shipped directly to Great Britain. The Jews were a threat to German national security.
B. Hitler was a religious fanatic who believed Jesus was coming at any moment and the pressure caused him to pre-empt a war. To safeguard the Jews they were confined as "saved".
C. Due to poor economic conditions and no manufacturing base providing a healthy sustainable enviroment, the Jews were blamed because they were richer and did not help out their fellow non Jewish neighbors.
D. Everybody in Germany hated Jews because Jews had arms down to their ankles and big noses and carried a distinct odorous smell.
tally wrote:What are the basic points of why the Jews were confined to camps?
Because it was wartime and Jews and their dependents were considered subversive, hostile, and even dangerous enemy aliens. The same thing was done in the USA against Japs who lived on the West coast, even if they were U.S. citizens or were born in the U.S. However, in the case of the Japs they were not subjected to forced-labor and separated from their families. Of course, there was no critical labor shortage in the U.S., either.
According to Holohistorian Karin Orth, before the war there was hardly more than 25 thousand in German concentration camps, including common criminals, and even this figure had quintupled in the late 1930s when a labor shortage had prompted jailing for vagrancy and more strongly enforcing laws against other asocials like prostitutes and male homosexuals. Nevertheless, the incarceration rate in Germany before the war, including political prisoners, was very low and not anywhere near comparable to the U.S. today. Also, the rate of capital punishment was about the same as in the USA at that time, which peaked in the 1930s.
Of course the war changed everything and the concentration camp population exploded just as the labor shortage imploded, caused by wartime industrial expansion and the mobilization of workers in the military.
A "useless eater" like Anne Frank survived Auschwitz and died of typhus at Belsen at the end of the war. Not to say that the Jews were not brutalized, but if the Germans had really been trying to kill her it wouldn't have been hard.
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