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Re: Bellinger's Himmler book / the Bellinger-Irving connection

Postby NLH » 3 years 7 months ago (Mon Dec 14, 2015 1:28 am)

As mentioned previously in this thread (I strongly recommend you read this entire thread), Mr. Bellinger spoke at the First "Real History" conference in Cincinnati, Ohio, upon invitation of David Irving, on September 25 1999. The full conference can be viewed on Youtube but the segment by Mr. Bellinger, that is relevant to this thread, on Bellinger's thesis, 'The Strange Death of Himmler', I have cut from the entire conference and can now be viewed below via archive.org.

Joseph P. Bellinger, The Strange Death of Himmler, September 25, 1999
(The First "Real History" conference, Cincinnati, Ohio).
https://archive.org/details/JosephBelli ... rDeath1999

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In addition to the rest of the tread, this is a segment of an interview with Bellinger regarding David Irving and the publisher of his Himmler book:

INTERVIEWER: You have recently published your book ‘Himmlers Tod: Freitod oder Mord?’ at Arndt Publishing, which quickly became controversial. As we have seen it is the result of a long search. How were you driven to this rather peculiar subject? Will it remain a legal book in Germany?

The Himmler book was based almost entirely upon a set of coincidental circumstances, in that, while browsing through photographs of the Reichsführer’s corpse some ten years ago, I noticed irregularities which appeared to be inconsistent with the published accounts of his death. I then compared these photos with those of Hermann Göring and also with other victims of cyanide poisoning which I examined in various forensic textbooks and the differences seemed rather startling. At that time I did not regard this preliminary inquiry to be conclusive evidence by any means, but I suspected that I might be on to something and decided to take the research to the next level. At this point I still had no definite plans to write a book on the subject, but decided to go on a ‘fishing expedition’ and see what might come out of it. The research was still in the most elementary stages, but over time the convergence of evidence finally paid off and convinced me that Himmler’s death, along with other high-ranking officials in the Third Reich, was the result of a deliberate decision to assassinate him within hours of capture and identification, and that the trail of responsibility led directly back to the SOE [Special Operations Executive], the PWE [Political Warfare Executive], and 10 Downing Street.

By 1996 I had assembled a dossier full of information all relating to Himmler’s alleged ‘suicide’ and had established written contact with sources in Germany and England who provided me with further information. On or about the same time, I wrote to David Irving and set my thesis out for his consideration, and he replied in a positive vein, and there the matter remained until one day I received an invitation from David Irving to speak on the subject of Himmler’s death at the first “Real History Conference” in Cincinnati, Ohio, which led to the signing of an interim, provisionary agreement to author a book detailing the true circumstances of Himmler’s death.

The timing couldn’t have been more fortuitous, because by the time I set out to write a complete manuscript, new files pertaining to Himmler’s capture and death had just been released by the archives in England and the United States and I availed myself of this material in the creation of the manuscript. Thus, I completed the original manuscript within one year of being commissioned to write it, but as circumstances turned out, Mr. Irving did not fulfill his promise to edit or publish and the book entered into a stage of limbo, although I continued to update the material from time to time with newly released information. A subsequent publisher in America indicated some interest in publishing the book but those plans also fell through. Finally, I was contacted by the good people at Arndt Publishing in Germany, who indicated that they were interested in publishing my manuscript. Once again, the timing could not have been more perfect, because by then additional information of a most remarkable nature had been released or published revealing more details of the curious circumstances of Heinrich Himmler’s death, and all the most updated information up until July 2005 was appended to the manuscript. This information included details of interviews with participants or characters in the drama which had hitherto been unpublished. These witnesses were unavailable to other researchers simply due to the fact that they had since died. Finally, the book had to be translated into German, and this assignment was undertaken by the remarkably gifted Mr. Jürgen Graf, whom I assisted as best I could whenever a question arose as to American or British idiomatic expressions. Assembling rare and unique photographs completed our work and the rest is history, as they say. As to whether the book will remain legal in Germany, I see no reason why it would not be.


Source: https://k0nsl.org/blog/detox/himmler-mu ... bellinger/


Maybe Mr. Graf can therefore supply us with an English manuscript if anyone can contact him?

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More on Joseph P. Bellinger

'Himmler' author / historian Joseph Bellinger interviewed
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3400
Another interview with Bellinger on Himmlers death
https://k0nsl.org/blog/detox/himmler-mu ... bellinger/
Joseph P. Bellinger profile at InconvenientHistory.com
http://inconvenienthistory.com/columnis ... linger.php
Joseph P. Bellinger profile at CODOH.com
http://codoh.com/library/authors/1495/
Joseph Bellinger's Himmlers Tod - A Commentary by Fredrick Töben
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissen ... linger.htm
http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/Dissen ... inger1.htm
Meet Joe Bellinger by HolocaustControversies
http://holocaustcontroversies.blogspot. ... inger.html
Joseph P. Bellinger at Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Joseph_Bellinger
Who killed Himmler?
viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7753
David Irving's Real History Conference, Cincinnati USA 1999 - TWO HOURS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77lXqP5NkVw
"Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."
- Kitty Hart-Moxon, Jewish Holocaust Survivor.

June 1998 testimony, USC Shoah Foundation, Visual History Archive.
Part 2 - YouTube - 1:21:42

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Re: Bellinger's Himmler book / the Bellinger-Irving connection

Postby NLH » 3 years 6 months ago (Sun Jan 03, 2016 1:56 am)

After corresponding with Carlos Porter directly and Jürgen Graf via Werd, I bring some good news.

As a few are aware from earlier in this thread, I attempted to find out if we could get Bellinger's book published in English (read this entire thread for more information and context). Besides the German publisher clearly never responds to anyone in either English nor German, but I found out anyway that, 'The German edition presents about half of the long manuscript which was shortened by the German editors.'


I initially contacted Mr. Porter to see if he would be interested, and, to cut a long story short (and a number of emails back and forth over a couple months), Mr. Porter just emailed me to say that:

"Found the next of kin, and he's arranging for commercial publishing. So problem solved. Trying to find David L Hoggan's next of kin."


And later regarding Bellinger:

"...it will take time. I can't reveal anything else. Anyway, the rights holder has the full manuscript, the rights, and has found a publisher."


That would be the original full English manuscript, not the shortened German one.

My sincere thanks go to Carlos Porter.

As Werd said, this would be great as an appendix:

The Forgery of a Forgery: The Case of the Feckless Forger
By Joseph P. Bellinger
Published: 2009-02-07
http://codoh.com/library/document/702/

Let's hope this and other information from this thread goes into some sort of an introduction, and before Irving publishes.
"Believe me, I came into Auschwitz in a much worse condition than I actually left it."
- Kitty Hart-Moxon, Jewish Holocaust Survivor.

June 1998 testimony, USC Shoah Foundation, Visual History Archive.
Part 2 - YouTube - 1:21:42


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