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Another Sobibor "Eye Witness" - Kalmen Wewryk

Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 3 years ago (Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:30 am)

His story can be found here:

http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/wewryk.html

It is not made clear when the text was written.

Some noteworthy passages:

http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/chapt2.html


The kapos stood waiting. Wagner barked out an order, and the kapos led groups away. The kapos told us--12 men- to line up and remain standing to the side. Each kapo knew where to lead his group. Some Jews plaintively asked where they were being led to. The kapos told them that they were being taken to the showers, to be disinfected. Those Jews were happy to believe this. It was true--they were filthy because they had been dragged out of their bunkers and had not been given any water at all. Many were covered with lice. Sure--they needed showers. They needed disinfecting. It was obvious.



Wewryk affirms that there existed a good reason for Jewish deportees having to take showers - they were often filthy and lice-ridden.


We--the workers in the Sobibor shops--were told about the whole process by the kapos. If the SS had found out they would have killed those kapos immediately and us too. The actual killing process was kept very secret. However, after 2 or 3 days there, the all-pervasive stench was self-explanatory.


You could tell most Jews one thousand times what was really going on there and they wouldn't believe you. People believe what they want to believe, or hope to believe- anything but the truth, if that truth is horrible enough. I myself spoke to some women wearing crucifixes, from Germany. They or their parents had converted to Christianity. I asked them: "Do you know where you are? Do you know what happens here?" I told them and they didn't believe me; they couldn't believe that such a place was possible. They answered me: "What do you mean when you say that they gas and burn people here? Such things in the middle of the 20th century? Are you crazy?" They simply couldn't understand it. Had people believed what was in store for them they would have resisted, but nobody believed. This was in 1942.


Could not believe it? With a stench of corpses pervading the whole area and huge tongues of fire leaping towards the skies day and night? This seems to be a common thread in many of the Aktion Reinhardt testimonies: at one hand, it is claimed that it was obvious that the camps were "death factories": a stench of rotting corpses, giant flames etc; on the other hand, the witness fails to convince incoming deportees of this "obvious fact".

More on the alleged enormous secrecy surrounding he camps:

He told us how many of the unfortunates had raw wounds and festering sores; their clothes had become stuck to the congealed blood and scars. When the clothes were ripped off them their pain was enormous--they yelled at the top of their lungs. I worked in the carpentry shop and I heard, many times, the yelling of such unfortunates. Had I shown any interest at all I would have been shot on the spot. Sobibor was supposed to be a "secret"--nobody was supposed to know anything. Anybody who showed any interest in the "process" was immediately shot.



Some of the usual German (and Ukranian) perversity:

After a transport was "processed" the Ukrainians and SS celebrated. In their Lager they had a casino, so they drank and sang and gorged themselves ("fressed").



There were many Ukrainians at Sobibor--horrible murderers! Extraordinary sadists!



Expansions of the camp was according to Wewryk a mere ruse:

I worked with a group of carpenters. We had much to do because the Germans were always expanding and "improving" Sobibor. These were make-work projects devised by the Germans so they shouldn't be sent to the front. The eastern front was a meat-grinder, devouring people en masse, so the Germans were eager to seize on any excuse to make themselves look busy.



The nasty Germans really look forward to killing innocent Jews:

When the SS man was called he came into the workshop right away. They were very happy to come--it gave them something to do and allowed them to look busy. They were bored between transports, and they didn't want to be sent to the front. The arrival of a transport galvanized these Germans into action--they came to life and all of their sadism and savagery welled up. They lusted for those transports. When no transports came, the Germans ordered the prisoners to plant trees and flowers, build bathing areas for the SS, etc. There was always work to be done.



Another Holohoax classic, murder-by-falling-trees:


Incidentally, a number of other Jews were killed when they were ordered to the tops of trees. When the trees came crashing down, those poor unfortunates were killed. The Germans regarded this as "entertainment."



More on the super secret killing center Lager III into which no prisoners could look in - but everybody knew it was a slaughterhouse!

The gassing and burning was done in Camp No. 3. About 200 Jews lived permanently in that slaughterhouse, but we had no contact with them. We weren't even allowed to look in the direction of Camp No. 3. That slaughterhouse, Camp No. 3, was supposed to be very secret. We were supposed to pretend that it didn't exist, and that we were totally unaware of it. However, only a severely retarded person [such as all the Jews who wouldn't believe Kalmen's story on their arrival?] could remain ignorant of what went on there. The smoke and the smell said it all and we occasionally heard a terrified "Shma Yizroel " echo over to us from there. A friendly kapo once told me that, after the poor Jews had been gassed in the "showers," the floor would open up and the bodies would drop down, to be dragged away by those prisoner-Jews for burning. The kapo told me that one of the Jews there had seen his own wife's body in the tangled mass of corpses. Many Jews resisted and had to be beaten into the gas chamber. The kapo told me that the healthier Jews took longer to die from the gas. They suffered more.



Every day brought new horrors. I remember when the Germans even arranged a "wedding" of two Jewish prisoners. This was a complete wedding celebration, with rabbis, festivities, music, etc. They picked a Jewish singer dancer from France as the chief soloist at the festivities. Ach, did she sing! So beautifully, and with such expression! The Germans had prepared this wedding celebration for their own grotesque propaganda purpose. They filmed the wedding completely, and right afterwards all the participants, including the French soloist, were taken to the gas chamber.



So they even had film cameras in Sobibor? Where is all the footage now?

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Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:39 am)

Wewryk quickly joins the bolshevik partisans:

After a while I learned that I had stumbled into a group of "official" Soviet partisans, under the leadership of Dadia Pyetcha.

After several days a doctor came to see me. He was Jewish and spoke Yiddish. He examined me carefully, but that was not the real purpose of his visit. I had already been examined quite thoroughly by several doctors. While he "examined" me, he conversed in Yiddish with me. He was checking on the authenticity of my story. Chelm Jews speak a particular kind of Yiddish, with many Ukrainian words as part of their vocabulary. Yiddish is a language of many dialects, so this doctor was checking to see whether my spoken Yiddish corresponded with the details of my life which I had told them.



Wewryk describes his and the other bolsheviks terrorists' activity:
I think my "teachers" could not have failed to see how eager I was to get into combat.

My first engagement with the enemy had a somewhat odd origin. We were encamped near a small village which was known to be a pro-Nazi stronghold. When the order would be given, we were supposed to move in on the village and clean it up, that is, get rid of the Germans and their "friends." One night, our commander said he was going to reconnoiter before the attack. Several other partisans followed him but, as per his orders, kept their distance from him. Suddenly, our commander started whipping his white horse madly and it galloped straight into the enemy-held village. The other partisans who were nearby looked on, stupefied. Our commander was gone in an instant, before anything could be done to stop or intercept him. According to rumors which circulated amongst us later, the commander was quite drunk.

When this misfortune was reported to our High Command a short time later, our whole Otryad (military unit) was mobilized and we were ordered to attack the village and find our commander, dead or alive. We fought for most of the night against the enemy, who contested every house and shack. The Germans fell back very slowly, taking heavy casualties. We had losses too but I was elated. I should have been afraid during this, my first engagement, but I wasn't. I had a weapon in my hands now; I was surrounded by people who shared my objective -- to pay the Germans and their collaborators back for all that they had done to innocent women and children. The whistle of flying bullets was music to my ears. It sounds somewhat corny now, but that's the way I felt then. For a long time I was lower than a cockroach on this earth. I was fair game for virtually everybody, soldier and civilian alike. My life was a nightmare peopled by squealers and bandits. And now I was hitting back! Yes, I might fall, but it would be in battle, while I was repaying a long overdue debt to the Germans and their collaborators. For the first time in a very long while I was happy.

After we took the village we searched every single house, shed, barn and stable, looking for our commander. It was all in vain--we never found him. The retreating Germans must have taken our leader with them. We burned the whole village to the ground.


Judeo-bolshevik scumbag "survivor" Wewryk not only hates Germans for their imagined deeds, he enjoys violence and approves of Stalinist show trials:

We hunted those uniformed Germans like rabbits. Many of them had been wounded in the explosion [the partisans had blown up a passing train transport of German soldiers], but they still tried to escape. The Aryan supermen bled like pigs! Don't let anybody tell you otherwise--revenge is sweet. A whole nation had dedicated itself to annihilating my brothers and sisters, and now I was giving them what they richly deserved. I enjoyed every minute of it! Five wounded senior German officers were captured and placed to one side by our commanders. I was ordered to guard them till they would be interrogated. One of them begged me, "Bring us a doctor! You must know the Geneva Convention concerning prisoners of war! Be fair! We're wounded! We demand medical attention--sofort! Immediately!" The blood rose to my head. "You are beasts," I shouted at them. "You killed my wife and children! Did you apply the Geneva Convention to them? You are a gang of murderers!" I hit one of them hard with the butt of my rifle. I turned on another and asked him if he had heard about Sobibor and other death camps. "That's where you monsters gas innocent people," I told him. "You've turned our women and children into smoke. What harm could they ever have done to you?" I shrieked. And I hit him too, very hard, with my rifle butt. I was losing control of myself very rapidly. Fortunately, a partisan comrade saw me from the corner of his eye and he came running over. He pacified me. I was lucky--another moment and I would have lost control of myself completely and killed those German animals. And my orders were to guard them, not kill them. Anyhow, after they were interrogated they were given the treatment they deserved, and it was a treatment not prescribed by the Geneva Convention. They richly merited the treatment they got.


Wewryk views Stalin's soldiers, fighting cowardly dressed up as Germans, as his brothers:
After several days the drop was finally made. The parachutists were senior Soviet officers, dressed like Germans. Crates of ammunition were dropped with them, and they brought Soviet newspapers, which we devoured eagerly. Their arrival encouraged us greatly because they were a link with an outside world which fought with us against the murderous Nazis and their collaborators. Running around in the forests, we had felt so isolated, so alone! And now we saw representatives of our brothers in this fight-to-the-death.


Wewryk displays some typical chosenite paranoia while listening to a hotel owner who probably did not believe much of Wewryk's Sobibor delusions:
One evening I went into a roadside small hotel, rented a room and ate a meal. The owner asked me who I was and where I was going. I told him all about Sobibor, its gas chambers and the masses of innocent people whose lives were snuffed out there. My eyes filled with tears when I noticed how he seemed to enjoy my description of how the innocent Jewish women and children were brutally murdered. He said to me, "Don't worry. There are more Jews around now than ever! You people multiply like rabbits! Now you've brought the Russians down on our heads!" When I returned to my room and regained control of myself, I reflected a bit and decided to take off. Perhaps the owner would assemble his "friends" and they would murder me in my bed. I couldn't sleep there that night. I quietly opened the window and climbed out. I slept in a small forest that night.


Was there maybe some truth to the following rumour:
Rumors were spread among the Poles that there were more Jews than ever and that they would take away all the property of the Poles. The atmosphere became very threatening. Some Jews were beaten in the streets and nobody cared -- Poles looked on and laughed. Many Jews left at that time--they saw the handwriting on the wall.

See also http://www.forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.ph ... ght=polish

Wewryk gets arrested by Polish police in Breslau but is released due to his affiliation with bolshevik partisans:
I was in that cellar hole for another 8 or 10 hours. Then I heard heavy footsteps. I thought that they were coming to shoot me. However, they dragged me upstairs and gave me back all my merchandise and documents. They also returned a small sum of money that I had. They did not return my watch. I asked for it, but they said they never saw it. They must have released me because of my Soviet partisan papers--they were afraid of an inquiry which would be led by Soviet NKVD police. They shoved me out onto the street and told me to be careful--they would keep an eye out for me.


Wewryk then leaves for the local NKVD office to inform on the anti-semitic police officers:

I went to the local NKVD office, showed them my Soviet partisan papers, and told them my story. They assigned two men (who by sheer chance were Jewish) to my case. We went to the Polish police station. The Polish policemen, who had been swaggering as if they were 10 feet tall, were now cowering before the NKVD men. With the NKVD men watching, I went berserk in that office. I attacked my former jailer and gave him two good punches. I tore up papers on his desk and then turned the desk over. The two NKVD men were taken aback by my behavior but they let me continue. I emptied every drawer of every desk in that office till I found my watch. The NKVD men made detailed notes of all I told them and all of the abject excuses of the Polish policemen. They wrote down everything and told me they would make a full report. There would be hell to pay for the way I had been treated!


Unfortuenatly for Wewryk, not much comes of this since, of course, both the Polish and the Soviet police are filled with vehement anti-semites who wish to "finish of Hitler's work":

Several weeks later I ran into the two NKVD men. They greeted me heartily and asked me if I had been convened to a hearing. I said no, I had not been summoned to any hearing. They were amazed. They had submitted all the proper papers to the higher authorities. The evidence against the Polish policemen was clear and their report urged the strongest punishment for those goons. The two NKVD men, aghast at the lack of follow-up to their painstaking investigation and report, turned aside for several minutes and whispered to each other. Finally, one of them turned to me and said, "Listen, friend, what we're telling you now is strictly private, off-the-record. You understand? All of the police here--ours and theirs--are one big band of anti-Semites." They told me about conversations that they had heard amongst their own "comrades" and Polish policemen, filled with Jew hatred of the worst kind. Their hearts were heavy with what they had heard. They told me that I was lucky to have emerged alive from the hands of the Polish police. They had undoubtedly meant to kill me. They told me that the Polish police had, as a priority, the "elimination" of the surviving Jews. Crime, public order and civil peace--all these were secondary concerns of the Polish police. Their primary topic of conversation was ridding the homeland of the surviving Jews.


Wewryk naturally experiences a common phenomena among Holocaust survivors: their memories grows more detailed and vivid as time passes:

I thought that, as I would get older, the memories of Chelm and Sobibor and the dark forests would fade and become indistinct, hazy. But it hasn't happened that way. As I get older, I see even more clearly the lines of beautiful children waiting to be gassed; I see the desperate faces of my Sobibor comrades as we all planned and prepared and waited; and I see my little boy Yossele playing at the entrance of our Chelm home. I am called a "survivor," but did I really survive? I doubt it.


http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/chapt3.html

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Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 3 years ago (Fri Oct 20, 2006 2:54 am)

There is a preface written by some mytographer named Howard Roiter which mentions how the account came to be written down:

http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/roiter.html

I met Mr. Wewryk several days later and I urged him to transmit his unique testimony to future generations. I didn't have to urge him. He desperately wanted to tell his story before it would be too late. Mr. Wewryk was obviously not in the best of health; I felt somewhat hesitant about bringing him back to his tear-laden past, to a suffering beyond words and to emotions that strained human sanity and endurance.

We sat together for over three years while he told me his story. Many times his eyes filled with tears and he ran out of the room. Many times I ran out of the room. I felt guilty at having brought this humble, good man back into the hell from which he had never really completely escaped. We pushed on, however, and the following pages are his memorial to those who perished and his legacy to future generations who must know.


No dates are mentioned but since the heading of the whole account reads

Edited, transcribed and translated from the Yiddish by Howard Roiter

To Sobibor and Back: An Eyewitness Account

published by the
Concordia University Chair in Canadian Jewish Studies

Copyright © Howard Roiter, 1999

( http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/wewryk.html )

one can assume that it was written somewhere between 1995 and 1999. It is worth mention that fellow "Survivor" Blatt's first book on Sobibor which I discuss in another thread ( http://www.forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=3674 ) was published in June 1997, that Blatt had written articles about Sobibor since long before that and that the made for TV movie "Escape from Sobibor" (which rested mainly on Blatt's earlier accounts) was aired in 1987. The allegation that Sobibor was a death camp with gas chambers was therefore widely known, especially among Jews, by the time Roiter wrote down the Wewryk account. Written at least 50 years after the alleged events, by a second person, during a duration of 3 years, it can not be regarded as having any value as evidence to the alleged gaschamber murders at Sobibor.

Edit: Forgot to read the epilogue, which states that the account was written in Montreal in (1982-)1984:
http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/epilogue.html
Anyway, an account 40 years after the alleged facts . The rumours that Sobibor was a death camp was possibly swallowed by Wewryk as early as his time in the camp as a working prisoner.

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Postby Ajax » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sun Oct 22, 2006 11:52 am)

Yet another 'survivor' nobody have ever heard of before crawls out of the woodwork. I'd like to see the definitive list of those people of 'survived' this camp and see how many names have been added over the years.
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Postby Laurentz Dahl » 1 decade 3 years ago (Sun Oct 22, 2006 4:49 pm)

Ajax wrote:Yet another 'survivor' nobody have ever heard of before crawls out of the woodwork. I'd like to see the definitive list of those people of 'survived' this camp and see how many names have been added over the years.


Yes, Wewryk is pretty obscure. He is not even indexed in Arad's book and do not appear on Blatt's website, which lists 50 Sobibor survivors with photos:

http://www.sobibor.info/survivors.html

As far as I know, the following Sobibor "survivors" besides Wewryk has left testimonies or other forms of witness accounts:

Thomas "Toivi" Blatt
Schlomo Alster
Alexander "Sascha" Pechersky
Zelda Metz
Moshe Bahir
Hersz Cukierman
Jakub Biskubicz
Selma Wijnberg
Ilana Safran
Leon Feldhendler
Josef Dunitz
Dov Freiberg
Mordechai Goldfarb
Philip Bialowicz
Ada Lichtman
Semion Rosenfeld
Yehuda Lerner
Richard Raschke (who published the book Escape from Sobibor in 1982)

The following Jews have testified or written about their alleged experiences in Treblinka:

Jankiel Wiernik
Samuel Rajzman
Richard Glazar
Abraham Goldfarb
Abraham Bomba
Abraham Kszepicki
Samuel Willenberg
Oskar Berger
Oscar Strawczinski
Simcha Laski
Yechiel Reichman
Aron Gelberg
Eliahu Rosenberg
Abraham Lindwasser
Sonia Lewkowicz
Shimon Goldberg
Tanhum Greenberg
Kalman Teigman
Marian Platkiewicz
Bronka Sukno
Boris (Kazik) Weinberg
Szyja Warszawski
Pinchas Epstein
Yosef Czarny
Chil Rajchman

I'm in the process of compiling a list of the testimonies/accounts left by the Reinhardt camp "survivors", arranged in chronological order. I will post it here on the forum once it's finished.

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Re: Another Sobibor "Eye Witness" - Kalmen Wewryk

Postby jonathan wewrk » 6 years 11 months ago (Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:06 pm)

to ajax and others who belive this is all fake.

Kalmen Wewryk was my grandfather.

This is all true. if you have questions or comments id be glad to respond to them, just post here I will check this thread.

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Re: Another Sobibor "Eye Witness" - Kalmen Wewryk

Postby Hannover » 6 years 11 months ago (Tue Feb 12, 2013 6:17 pm)

jonathan wewrk wrote:to ajax and others who belive this is all fake.

Kalmen Wewryk was my grandfather.

This is all true. if you have questions or comments id be glad to respond to them, just post here I will check this thread.

Hello Jonathan, welcome to the CODOH Revisionist Forum, I'm glad you posted.

I'll be honest, you grandfather's tales read like a combination of communist propaganda and self serving Jewish supremacism, and are simply not believable. But let's talk specifics; some questions for you:
- Did your grandfather tell you how the alleged 'gas chambers' worked at Sobibor? If so, please describe the process.
- Did your grandfather explain to you why no human remains as alleged at Sobibor can be shown?

I note this from http://migs.concordia.ca/memoirs/wewryk/wewryk.html :
Feels he owes his survival to Alexander Pechersky, a Soviet Jewish prisoner of war.

Yet this Pechersky claims:
... gassings at Sobibor took place via a black heavy substance which exited in spirals from holes in the roof. Then the floor of the gas chamber opened up, and the bodies fell directly into wagons placed in the basement.

- Do you find Pechersky to be credible?


Be aware, you may be challenged on your responses (per the guidelines here), which should not bother anyone who feels they have truth on their side.

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Re: Another Sobibor "Eye Witness" - Kalmen Wewryk

Postby Kingfisher » 6 years 11 months ago (Wed Feb 13, 2013 3:18 am)

I have a question for Jonathan too.

What is your take on these Jewish Kapos who, allegedly, led their victims into the gas chambers? Why were none of them executed while John Demjanjuk (to take a famous and recent example) was pursued to his deathbed on almost zero evidence and contradictory charges 65 years after the events in question? One of these alleged Kapos (Tomas Blatt) was even brought as a witness against Demjanjuk!


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