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more of the homosexuals canard / Jews attack gay 'memorial'

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 02, 2008 11:30 am)

The piece at bottom is loaded with outright lies and misinformation.

- There is not a shred of evidence that any gays were executed in Germany for being gay, none.
- The German policy on homosexuality was no different that most of the world at that tiime, and less harsh than many countries.

- Note that there was no attempt to hide police records, but yet the claim says:
It is estimated that 45,000 to 100,000 German homosexuals were arrested under Nazi rule between 1933 and 1945. Up to 10,000 of them
died in concentration camps.

"Estimated" by who? How was this "estimated"? Where's the proof?

A simple kiss could land you in trouble, reads the inscription.

So it would in most of the world ... and still could in some countries.

The homosexuals canard debunked here, I've thrown in the Gypsies lie as well:

The Myth of a Nazi Extermination of Homosexuals by Jack Wikoff
http://www.cwporter.com/homo.htm

'Gypsies and Homosexuals in the Camps'
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894

homosexuals - Yad Vashem mistake? - Or is the Prof a Denier?
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1930

the Gypsy 'extermination' Big Lie debunked
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1744

Mattogno and the Gypsies
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=289

Gypsy charade at Auschwitz
http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?t=1273

So, below we have those that profit from easily refuted lies battling for top dog. There's lot's of cash and power involved. Read on.

- Hannover
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-7771.html

Jewish academic attacks gay Holocaust memorial

Germany has made a mistake by dedicating a memorial to the gay men
who were victims of Nazi oppression, a leading Holocaust scholar has
claimed. Israel Gutman of the Yad Vashem Institute in Jerusalem said
that the Nazis only targeted German gay men, and that they were the
victims of political battles within Hitler's National Socialist Party
rather than a campaign of homophobia.

"The location was particularly poorly chosen for this monument," Mr
Gutman told Polish newspaper Rzeczpospolita. "If visitors have the
impression that there was not a great difference between the
suffering of Jews and those of homosexuals, it's a scandal." He
claimed that the German people "understood the immense scope of the
crime of the Holocaust which they had committed. But this time, they
made an error." The first openly gay Mayor of Berlin opened the new
memorial to the homosexual victims of Nazi oppression earlier this
week.

Klaus Wowereit was joined by representatives of the International
Gay and Lesbian Association (ILGA) and the federal minister for
culture and media. The homosexual victims of Nazi Germany remained
excluded from the public process of remembrance of past injustices
until recent times and were denied compensation for their suffering
under Nazi rule.

It is estimated that 45,000 to 100,000 German homosexuals were
arrested under Nazi rule between 1933 and 1945. Up to 10,000 of them
died in concentration camps. Many survivors, far from being
liberated, were transferred to prisons. The laws used against gay
people in Germany remained on statute books until 1969. It was only
in 2002 that the German parliament issued a formal pardon for any gay
people convicted by the Nazis and in 2003 it approved the
construction of the memorial.
A simple kiss could land you in trouble, reads the inscription.
The new memorial is situated in Berlin's Tiergarten Park, close to
the Brandenburg Gate and opposite the Jewish Holocaust Memorial. It
consists of a four metre tall grey rectangular block. One side has a
small opening through which viewers can see a black and white art
film scene of two men kissing.
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby KostasL » 1 decade 1 year ago (Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:25 pm)

Hannover wrote:- Note that there was no attempt to hide police records, but yet the claim says:
It is estimated that 45,000 to 100,000 German homosexuals were arrested under Nazi rule between 1933 and 1945. Up to 10,000 of them
died in concentration camps.

"Estimated" by who? How was this "estimated"? Where's the proof?



People just died in the concentration camps as they died all over Germany. Especially during last year of the war.
Why would gays be invulnerable while millions of people die ? How could this be possible ?

As for estimated 45,000 to 100,000 number, it is just for laughs.
Estimation should be 45,000 to 50,000 OR 95,000 to 100,000 OR something like this. They just say whatever they want.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:55 am)

KostasL:
They just say whatever they want.

Exactly. In the past they assumed no one would question their agenda driven nonsense; but now rational minds are all over it.

The absurd 'holocaust' story is incredibly easy to debunk, and that's why they arrest people who question the mythology.

- Hannover
If it can't happen as alleged, then it didn't.

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 1 year ago (Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:35 pm)

It is estimated that 45,000 to 100,000 German homosexuals were arrested under Nazi rule between 1933 and 1945. Up to 10,000 of them
died in concentration camps.


up to 10,000 could be one or two also.

I read an essay where they stated that in Babi Yar "more than 33,770 were killed". The allegation is exactly one more (33,771).

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