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Altered WWII Aerial Photos - The 'Smoking Guns'

Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Mon Aug 25, 2003 9:28 pm)

Notice the obviously drawn on marks on the morgue roofs to the left and right of the two crematoria buildings (built to fight typhus) which are intended to depict the alleged openings/'holes' for dumping Zyklon-B into the morgues...later absurdly claimed to be 'gas chambers'.

Notice the differences in the various photos below, further indication of tampering.

The 'holocau$t' Industry has met the enemy, it is their own lies.

[Many photos have changed location and are not visible as posted in this thread, see this link for photos mentioned:
https://archive.org/details/AirPhotoEvidenceAuschwitz
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Mon Aug 25, 2003 11:31 pm)

Here is a ground level photo of an alleged 'gas chamber' roof at Auschwitz/Birkenau; (krema II) that does not have Zyklon-B insertion columns in the roof as alleged. The date is January/February 1943. According to Auschwitz "expert" Robert Jan Van Pelt (who appeared at the Irving/Lipstadt trial), the insertion columns, which were said to protrude out from the roof, were added as an adaptation in August, 1942.

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Here's what Brian Renk has to say about Van Pelt on this:
Van Pelt said:
"The genocidal program in Auschwitz had been adopted in August, the roof was being finished in December, so there was no reason to hack through the roof. They could immediately have made the holes in the roof as they were constructing it".

The 1943 photo doesn't show any evidence of holes or Zyklon- B insertion "chimneys", so there is a problem for van Pelt. At first, he testified that the chimneys can't be seen because "after the dirt was brought on top of the roof of the gas chamber or morgue number one, the [protrusion] would have been less. If we then add snow on top of that, it is very unlikely we would have seen much of these little chimneys".

Two days later, van Pelt recognized his big mistake (probably pointed out to him at the Stockholm conference that weekend). I'll quote from my essay:

"Realizing that the photo shows that there were only a few inches of snow on the roof, he stated that the holes would have been covered with boards, implying that the "introduction chimneys" had not been built in late January". (fn 23: Transcript, January 28, pp. 109-113)

Van Pelt completely contradicted what he had said about immediately making holes (and, by implication, the insertion 'chimneys' also) as they were constructing it, and completely contradicted what he had said about the chimneys being covered by soil and snow in the photo- once he had realized that there were only 3-4 inches of snow (no soil) on the roof in the late January 43 photo. It is the contradiction that is important. They're all over the place.


For further debunking of the ridiculous 'gas chambers', a must see:
http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/RudolfOnVanPelt.html
just one example from this url:
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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 6 years ago (Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:38 pm)

French speaking Jew, Jacques Mandelbaum, stated in 'Le Monde' about the crushing aerial photos, 1/25/01, p. 17:

..aerial photos of a [concentration] camp taken from an altitude of 7,000 meters, on April 4, 1944, by American reconnaissance planes, where the readers can make out all the mundane details, **except the presence of gas chambers**.

If seeing is believing, how then does one make the admission that where the Shoah is concerned it is precisely images we are completely without.


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Postby Goethe » 1 decade 5 years ago (Fri Dec 12, 2003 12:49 am)

This is mind blowing! How in the world can they claim gas chambers after these photos are known? This is, IMO, the most compelling set of posts here. I mean, there it is, right before your eyes. The gas chambers are simply blown away. Are there more of these anywhere, beside the links given?

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:39 pm)

This seems like an appropriate thread for comment since a journal article is claimed to be forthcoming on this matter.

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Postby Willing to Learn » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:11 pm)

Is it not possible that the camp was changed from May - July and then again before August? Why is that so hard to believe?

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Postby Willing to Learn » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Apr 20, 2004 6:19 pm)

And another thing, are we looking at the holes of (A) or (B) in this picture?

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Postby ClaudiaRothenbach » 1 decade 5 years ago (Wed Apr 21, 2004 10:24 am)

Willing to learn:
Is it not possible that the camp was changed from May - July and then again before August? Why is that so hard to believe?

Maybe the crema area was changed. That is unimportant. The photos are tampered. That is important. There was no wall around the cremas. There are a lot of ground level photos from the railroad side to the cremas that show a fence - nothing else.

And another thing, are we looking at the holes of (A) or (B) in this picture?

We are looking on (A). (B) are dormers on a saddleback roof. The "holes" (A) are on a flat roof (see ground level photo in the thread of Hannover above). There you can also see that these "holes" are no holes - these spots are painted.

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Postby Haldan » 1 decade 5 years ago (Mon Apr 26, 2004 9:07 pm)

This is very good information, Hannover! Probably hissing for the holocaust industry though!

Can't wait for more revelations. This is amazing,

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 5 years ago (Tue Apr 27, 2004 1:04 am)

Thanks & welcome to The Revisionist Forum.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:14 pm)

Richard Perle asked for more aerial photos.

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Postby Richard Perle » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:47 pm)

The morgue on the right maintains that ridiculous staggered arrangement in each photo. The Germans obviously unable to keep to a straight line. On the left I don't know what is going on.
The way the marks on each photo - at least on the right hand side - are in the same place is puzzling in its consistency.

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Postby Hannover » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:00 pm)

The 'consistency' is easily done via an overlay. As ridiculous as these tampering marks are, what choice did the scammers have? They would prefer weird marks rather than nothing at all.

By presenting and falsely captioning a few low detail photos, the marks look less obvious and the lies can be sold to the uninformed. Enlarging them a bit and the game's over.

They liars are not as smart as everyone thinks.

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Postby theTRUTH » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Jan 31, 2005 6:50 pm)

The August 25th and May 31st photos on Hannover's post that have the solid black fence-like lines and 4 black short lines on top of each morgue, were re-touched in '78 and published in '93 in Air Photo Evidence.

In '94 the July 8th, 1944 German-flown photo was released showing absolutely no black lines that look like fences around Cremation buildings 2 and 3. The reason that fence-like lines were not drawn on this photo is because the re-touchers knew about Air Photo Evidence and did not want to put lines on the photo that would possibly be a different shape and location from the August 25th photos.

The July 8th photo has re-touching marks on top of Crema 2 and 3 morgues and fence-like lines around Cremation buildings 4 and 5. Smoke is seen rising from the yard close to Cremation building 5 that is suspect for the following reasons:
(1) the smoke is not wispy and broken but solid white and would be rising from a large fire

(2) Cremation building 5 was wood and the area aound the fire 35 feet (10 meters) away were large dry trees that would have easily caught fire with only a small amount of wind-blown red-hot embers.

(3) In the hot Polish summer in July, there were many other places to start garbage-burning fires that had no trees or adjacent wood buildings that could easily have caught fire such as the soccer field, the area around Crema 2, of the partly constructed Mexico extension.

So the smoke in the July 8th and the August 23rd photo released in 2003 by Keele University could have been drawn on the photos to correspond with alleged corpse burning. Perhaps those on this thread could do their own crime-scene investigation of this theory.

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Postby Turpitz » 1 decade 4 years ago (Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:14 pm)

Perhaps those on this thread could do their own crime-scene investigation of this theory.


There is no theory about it! The stupid childish smoke was most definitely added though not drawn in, but using either 3DSMax, Maya or Cinema 4D most probably pyrocluster. Takes about fifteen minutes!

23rd August 1944 image and 13th Sept are the same photo!


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