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Q. When did you read Reitlinger?
A. Reitlinger I have never - I only read here. The fact that Reitlinger existed, and my even having leafed through it, that might have been in 1956-1959. I did not read it until I was in prison here.
Q. And Poliakov? When did you read him?
A. The same as Reitlinger, I did not read this until I was in prison. And as proof of this I can cite...
Q. Without proof. Can you say when this was?
A. In prison here. I knew that both Reitlinger and Poliakov existed, and I also leafed through Poliakov's black book at the same time as I leafed through the Reitlinger. It would have been better if I had read it, because then I would have been able to give much clearer testimony here. I myself regretted that I read these two books so late, after the end of my Statement to the police.
Q. Sassen asked you questions from books. From which books did he ask you questions and read passages to you?
A. I do not know. I cannot say in detail today.
Q. But that was not sixteen years ago; that was three years ago. And it took months.
A. I have said that I do not remember, because it was not an interrogation: we sat over a bottle of wine.
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